Unidentified silver and brass relic

[triley41395]

Been trying to I.D. this object and no one seems to know but several have recommended posting it here. It was found in a field in Ohio by a friend with other coins and relics. The coins range in date from the oldest being 1820 to the newest being 1865. The buttons range from Tombacs to CW era buttons. By the color of the brass I think the tip has got to be silver.Any help or suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Added thoughts: Like I said I have been here a long time and through trial and error, we have learned what works and what doesnt. I guess Im just trying to give some advice and set some guidelines for the newer members. Its a great place to learn.


As far as the unknown item, we may never know exactly what it is and after reading the theories presented, my guess is also handle.

Have a good evening.

 

[pippinwhitepaws]

well...I might back off the safety razor idea...and support the mechanical pencil...
but. I never saw a Bakelite valve stem cover...with sterling...perhaps a Marmon might have had some...

 

[DCMatt]

This is just a guess (sorry BCH)... but based on the size and types of metals , I think it is a piece from a ladies chatelaine - possibly the body of a pencil or a needle case or seam ripper or a handle from a looking glass... They hung all sorts of items from those things...

DCMatt

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Wild guesses are fine and guesses do not necessarily need any supporting evidence.

 

[diggummup]

Triley41395, welcome to TNet!

Length and diameter of the object would help limit the possibilities.

I'll second that notion. I realize there is a pic with a fingertip for size reference but... fingers come in all sizes. Not to mention, are we absolutely sure there are no threads on that silver end? I'm not so sure myself. I will refrain from anymore replies until we have more information. I wish people would read this- http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/136849-please-read-before-posting-items-what.html before posting on here.

 

[triley41395]

Sorry for all the controversy over this item and sorry it took so long to respond...I will try to add a few more details...It is about 1 1/2 inches long and maybe half the diameter of a regular pencil(larger than the lead)...The silver tip looks to be a sleeve of solid silver ,I don't think its plated but a very thin sleve(I'll try to post some more pics.)..It also looks to have hallmarks that are worn and unreadable under a 10x loupe...although the end does seem to be threaded inside the hole only seems to go half way through,tried to clean it with a tooth-pic but it seems solid but it could be something just stuck or corroded in there...Although I'm not sure if it will help I'll also post a pick of the other items I've recovered from this site for time/date comparison...I'm not sure if its relivent or not but there has been 12 CW era eagle buttons 1 pre CW eagle button and an OVM buckle found there ,being silver tipped doesn't say military but I have no idea what it is so who knows....The only modern items that have been found are a small piece of can slaw and a clad dime.I will be out of town until the 6th so if you have any other questions I wont be able to answer them until then....

 

[coin1921]

This could this be something to consider

 

[GpSnoopy]

we may never know exactly what it is and after reading the theories presented, my guess is also handle.

Having looked at miniature magnifying glasses, quill pens, nib pens, focusing levers, adjustment levers for scientific or optical equipment, eyeglass holders, miniature sewing tools, etc, etc, I have come to the same conclusion. It could possibly belong to any of these categories plus ones we haven't thought of yet.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Sorry for all the fuss Triley. WELCOME TO TREASURENET!

The brass piece to the left of the Ohio buckle is from a valise.

 

[AU Seeker]

Exactly. I notice 2 members clicked "like" on GMD52s reply but you notice I didnt because there was no supporting pic. It cannot be marked solved. I think several members agreed with the ID but have no idea what a valve stem looks like. Tell me how can you agree with an ID when you dont even know what an antique valve stem looks like? What good does it do posting pics of valve stem caps? This only causes a waste of time and space and makes this forum look very amateur.

Thanks for allowing me to rant. Everyone involved seems to be a good sport. Since the item is not solved, wild guesses are welcome as long as we know they are wild guesses.. Bad guesses will most likely just be ignored but a good lead, like GMD52s, requires detective work to follow up and find a matching pic. .But if you have no idea the difference between a valve stem, cap, or gauge, its kinda hard to be of any help and you should probablly bow out of this one and wait for the next. Think of making quality posts not a quantity of childish jibberish.

BTW has anyone searched for Model T valve stems that match or was GMD52s tip a waste of time? I am not familiar with GMD52s other posts so I dont know if his word is good. You will notice some members word is better than others and this is also very true in life. We have no choice but to require authentication. I tried searching the site but should I spend more than an hour?.

I first searched for razors handles and couldn't find a match, then the Model T valve stems and no match, I have searched for all the suggestions and still no matches I could find, the searching an speculation on my part continues in trying to find a match.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Something to remember, he said it was a smaller diameter than a pencil.

 

[woodstock]

It could be a valve stem cover ... or a part of a case from a writing utensil , or what it looks like to me is a part of a small double edged razor travel kit . I remember there was a two piece handle that screwed top the razor top ... Hey do they still sell double edged razors Woodstock

 

[bigfoot1]

the absolute closest I have found(tho not a perfect match)was a needle container hung from necklace as dc mat considered.I'll not yet post pic untill I find it...most intriquing.

 

[nuggy]

I am leaning toward - handle or part handle for early safety razor, I scrolled through endless images without finding an exact match, but many are somewhat similar. If it was made as part of a fancy grooming set - as many were, the silver part would not be unusual, also the brass part may have been covered with something that has decomposed long ago. There may not even be a photo of the correct 1860's razor handle anywhere. Just my opinion - Nuggy

 

[woodstock]

Yes and the reat of the razor is posted under " Old Shaving Tool " ( or something like that ) below this thread ... it's the middle piece . Woodstock

I am leaning toward - handle or part handle for early safety razor, I scrolled through endless images without finding an exact match, but many are somewhat similar. If it was made as part of a fancy grooming set - as many were, the silver part would not be unusual, also the brass part may have been covered with something that has decomposed long ago. There may not even be a photo of the correct 1860's razor handle anywhere. Just my opinion - Nuggy

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

just a quick comment BigC. maybe i am wrong but some times i click like because i like the way the poster is thinking , like if they think out side of the box and come up with a idea thats way out there but still possible , i do not only like if i agree that is the right guess.....maybe i like the like button to much ,,,lol

I understand but I also think we need to limit using the like button to no more than 10 times a day lol. This is more than enough. It seems some members overuse it by clicking like on every post making it kind of a meaningless feature.

OK maybe 20x but not every day.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Yes and the reat of the razor is posted under " Old Shaving Tool " ( or something like that ) below this thread ... it's the middle piece . Woodstock

Razor handle was mentioned back in the very first reply I think but we are unable to find a match. The 1950-60 era razor you speak of is not a match. It could be a razor handle but it could just as well be a number of things including a pen, pencil, magnifier, hyperdermic needle, eyeglass holder etc. It may be doctor related from the valise bag.