Want to beat a banker.. revisited..

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Well picked up my four boxes of halves and four boxes of dimes this morning..... Got up only had a few smokes left and went to get some, gas station is next to my bank (My commericial account, last thread was personal account) Anyway I got my smokes and was getting gas for the truck and saw Satan,, I mean Brinks drive up at my bank. Well by the time I was thru filling up the bank called me and said my coins were there. Went and got them, Brinks left before I got out. Well same as last time, all boxes of halves were opened and taped with masking tape, so BRINKS is doing it, not the tellers as I thought earlier. So I have to go to my other bank in the morning and tell them I am sorry for saying they did it. Not unless the teller can go thru a whole box in about seven or eight minutes. But I wont be ordering anymore halves. I mean these are exactly as I described in the previous post, all tails facing up, masking tape on the edge. THis bank is 45 miles away and delivers on a different day from my other bank. Dimes kinda sucked, got one mixed box, three full boxes of 2007-d. Did get a few silver dimes out of the one box. .... In the morning the "Friday half dollar road trip from hell" starts.. I dont care if I end up in Oklahoma or even Kansas.. I AM GETTTING WHAT I WANT!!!!!!
 

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Someone needs to find the number to the Brinks service in your area and let them have an earfull.
 

That stinks >:(

I had a thought though. Theres only 2 ways this could happen. 1. The drivers are searching them
while en-route. If you think about it... if done in house, they could pick the silver before rolling. These
are sealed boxes and machine rolled. For them to be opened and retaped.. that could be after they
leave the place. OR 2. They are simply refabricating boxes that they "received" like that, by just taping
them up and redistributing, therefore previously searched, but not by them.

In any case, that stinks. Sounds like the Brinks mystery is being solved. They are receiving HUGE amounts
from banks that have been searched. Instead of the manpower, and boxes, and wrappers and machines
redoing it all, (those boxes are probably not cheap... special printing, inspection holes etc.. custom boxes), they
are saving alot of cash just sending them back out without putting them through the system.

Im sure a HUGE percentage of CRH'rs crimp the end back on the wrappers, put them right back into the box, and
return the whole shabang.... thats the problem I think.

I think we need to have a mass movement among us, to use coin machines, or rewrap in hand-wrappers, and take
them in with bags and containers etc. Then there would be no choice, but to send them into the hoppers to be redone.

Catch-22 - Doing this though, costs them more, and will eventually lead to everyone being charged fee's for ordering or cashing them in etc etc.

Look at the mess we are causing hahahahaha... LOVE IT.

Sorry about the madness, I feel your pain. Pick me up a few rolls in Arkansas if you make it that far :) J/K

Good luck !!!!!!!!
 

All my boxes look fine as do the rolls,all boxes "factory" taped and all rolls machine rolled.But I haven't found any silver in the last 5 boxes including one I just now went through.I have one more to go,i'll let ya know if it's a no go too.Man i'm beggining to wonder if the halves aren't getting picked through before they even reach the couriers anymore.Maybe the Feds are picking it all out of circulation? I smell a conspiracy! ;D
 

diggummup said:
Maybe the Feds are picking it all out of circulation? I smell a conspiracy! ;D

I've been wondering that as well. :P
 

"Anyway I got my smokes and was getting gas for the truck and saw Satan,, I mean Brinks drive up at my bank."

ROFL ;D


I seriously believe that Brinks is intentionally delivering boxes of already searched halves to the banks. About 6 months ago I was ordereing boxes from a bank, NOT the current banks I use. Anyways, the teller asked me if I was dropping off my halves at a specific bank and also named the street. She had the CORRECT bank and street! The Brinks truck was picking up my searched halves at this bank,and re-rolling them and bringing them back the next week to my pick up (order) bank. I kept getting boxes with NO silver.

I found this out because the teller told me that the Brinks employee was picking up the same amount of boxes at this bank each week. At that time the teller said maybe you should stop ordering for a while,and resume ordering later. I have never gone back to this bank.

I've tried ordering from other banks not on or near the bank route of my drop off bank. Everything was going really well for about 5 months,but I noticed that one of the other banks that I have received boxes from have been skunks for about a month straight.

I think Brinks employees are NOT re-wrapping and not re-boxing the searched halves, they are obviously tired of all of it. I also think that these same employees if given the chance to search the halves, most definitely would.
 

Intresting theory about Brinks drivers...I wouldn't put it past them. I was talking to the manager at one of the banks I order my halves from about the possibility of getting the sames coins back that I just dropped off. She said there is little chance of getting the same halves back (at least not all of them) on the next order because they (the bank) have to open every roll and dump them in a bag. That means they get put into a coin counter and re-rolled with other halves. So chances are we are seeing alot of the same coins with some others mixed in. I try to go to another county to dump my rejects so I can lessen the chances of getting the same old coin. I haven't seen any open boxes yet but have run across many tellers who are on the lookout for silver and other collectible money.

HH Mark
 

At my current bank the teller told me that she has to open the rolls and put the halves into plastic bags to return them. I don't think all the banks follow this,but they really should and they would eliminate getting opened rolls in the boxes. The only way it could happen after this is if Brinks employees are opening rolls and replacing them in the boxes. ???
 

I have ordered about 12 boxes total over the last six weeks. I do OK on dimes, but halves, I have never got anything out of a box yet. Just driving around and "bank-hopping" is all I am gonna do now. My banks have already started threatening me with box order charges.
I doubt the drivers have time to go through the boxes while driving around. Especially to do as good of a job as they do on the rolls. Nothing worth keeping in 12 boxes?? no "S" mints, 40 or 90 percents, proofs..I have been going as far as to look for the double die, , no "FG" initials on back. My eyesight aint as good as it used to be, but your eyes do get tired after awhile. Looking that close in a vehicle driving down the road would be hard.
 

One thing has to be realized also is there is only a finite number of silver halves out there, and with all the roll hunters out there (many, many more than what post here) the supply is going to start to get depleted. Is there shennanigans being pulled by Brinks at some locations, probably. Is the feds getting into the silver searching business, personally, I doubt it. But every silver coin we find is one more that will NOT be found later, so realistically we cannot expect to find silver forever.
 

An option to think about is changing the way you get rid of your rejects. Most people just take them to another bank. Spend them, don't give Brinks a chance to recirculate your rejects. It is a slower method, but it also gives you something to look forward to (getting the next box).
 

Raptor686 said:
Instead of the manpower, and boxes, and wrappers and machines redoing it all, (those boxes are probably not cheap... special printing, inspection holes etc.. custom boxes), theyare saving alot of cash just sending them back out without putting them through the system.

Those boxes are probably about 60 cents each and the wrappers $3 for 1000.
 

wayne1956 said:
An option to think about is changing the way you get rid of your rejects. Most people just take them to another bank. Spend them, don't give Brinks a chance to recirculate your rejects. It is a slower method, but it also gives you something to look forward to (getting the next box).

Thats all fine and dandy but I think it is a logistics? problem spending a couple grand in halfs.
 

No way to spend $1,000 to $2,000 a week in halves. I take all my halves in to the credit union that has a coin counter.
I have marked several hundred halves with a large "V" on Kennedy's face and none have come back to me.
 

I know .60 isnt much, but if they as a "whole company country wide", have to box up
800 Boxes a week, theres almost $500.00 just in box cost. Thats almost 30 grand a year.

Theres guys on here that get 16-20 boxes per week by themselves... 1 person.

Again, not alot of money to them, but it may be substantial enough to worry about from a
Manager point of view. Add in all the rolls, and also the Dollar/Hour of the persons to run the
machines and load the boxes on shelves and dollies , and trucks etc etc etc. Im sure
they would rather NOT do this... as they get paid the same fees anyway from their accounts. If
they do NOTHING, they still get paid the same each month.

Was just an observation... not claiming its right LOL.

Story : There once was a bright-eyed employee of a major airline. The airline had an employee
suggestion program, where people could earn huge money if they came up with ideas to save the
company money. Reward type thing. This bright-eyed employee suggested to remove (1) Olive
from the First Class dinner/drinks portion. This 1 removed olive per customer, netted a savings of
300,000 a year !!! When your dealing with huge numbers, even pennies are worth plenty :) (it went
something like that...)

PS. UPS would charge 12.95 for that box at the UPS Store :) LOL

Happy Searchin'
 

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