✅ SOLVED What is this exactly? I can’t find an exact one online. British crown one piece button firmin & co london

[wayfas4u]

British crown one piece button firmin & co london… found at an Indian site. What year timeline is this button?

 

[ncsuwolf]

One piece….so I’m guessing 1830s or prior. Where (directionally) was it found?

 

[Red-Coat]

The crown style is St.Edward’s crown, used on official and military buttons in Britain between 1838 and 1901. Prior to Victoria, the Tudor crown with an arched top was generally used.

Without any regimental or other indication (I don’t see any letters or numbers either below or either side of the crown) it’s unlikely to be military but might well be a generic button for some other official use, or could simply be patriotic.

 

[wayfas4u]

One piece….so I’m guessing 1830s or prior. Where (directionally) was it found?

Thank you! Southern Georgia

 

[wayfas4u]

The crown style is St.Edward’s crown, used on official and military buttons in Britain between 1838 and 1901. Prior to Victoria, the Tudor crown with an arched top was generally used.

Without any regimental or other indication (I don’t see any letters or numbers either below or either side of the crown) it’s unlikely to be military but might well be a generic button for some other official use, or could simply be patriotic.

😊 thank you

 

[wayfas4u]

The crown style is St.Edward’s crown, used on official and military buttons in Britain between 1838 and 1901. Prior to Victoria, the Tudor crown with an arched top was generally used.

Without any regimental or other indication (I don’t see any letters or numbers either below or either side of the crown) it’s unlikely to be military but might well be a generic button for some other official use, or could simply be patriotic.

Thank you Red Coat …😊

 

[fyrffytr1]

Are you sure the backmark is Firmin & Co? I don't see the Co. part. And, I can't find a reference to a Firmin & Co. backmark. Maybe Red Coat can educate me on this.

 

[beachhunter3]

Are you sure the backmark is Firmin & Co? I don't see the Co. part. And, I can't find a reference to a Firmin & Co. backmark. Maybe Red Coat can educate me on this.

Like you fyrffytr I'm a little confused on this one to because the shank is showing pre-1800... I mean am I wrong? I guess if it's solved its solved.

 

[Retired Sarge]

Found this backmark information on the site below. "Firmin & Co. circa 1800-1811"

Button Makers Backmarks

 

[Red-Coat]

“Firmin & Co.” is listed below as “c.1800-1811”, but “Firmin & Co. London” is just listed as an indeterminate “Early 19th Century” (with a reference to plain gilt).

https://www.ukdfd.co.uk/pages/button-makers.html#anchora

Whether “Early 19th Century” stretches as far as the Victorian period beginning in 1838, I know not.

I couldn’t reliably read the backmark, but was going by the crown style (St. Edward’s) as consistent with Victorian. I would expect a Victorian button to be “Firmin & Sons London”.

 

[wayfas4u]

A closer look at my button I definitely see “Firmin & Co” the middle letters “r” & “m” are mostly worn. “London” is easily seen….. This is a good conversation and I thank you all for sharing your valuable knowledge. 😊