What is this hallmark?

[cherrypicked]

Anyone know what this is?

 

[AU Seeker]

You maybe able to find the hallmark at the following link, there're many countries listed, the link is to the USA page, it may take a good bit of searching from the vast data/hallmarks they have listed.

http://www.oldandsold.com/pottery/usa1.shtml

It looks similar to one of the German Bindenschild marks, but not exactly, you can find those marks on page 17 of the German marks.

http://www.oldandsold.com/pottery/germany17.shtml

 

[surf]

Might be what some call Royal Vienna. Is it an oyster plate?

"Pottery & Porcelain Marks – Shield: Marks that look like shields were used from the late 18th century to the present. Cylindrical shapes with a few horizontal lines inside were the earliest shield marks. Over time, the shield became more decorative. From 1774 to 1864, the Royal Vienna Porcelain factory used the Beehive Vienna Mark. A version of the Hapsburg family's u-shaped coat of arms, the mark was turned upside down and thus looked like a beehive. Shield marks, right side up, had a horizontal line at the top, and a curve at the bottom. Beehive marks, upside down, had the horizontal line on the bottom and curved at the top and looked like a beehive. Many firms used versions of the mark to trick the buyer. The original mark was hand-painted and was usually applied glaze under the glaze. Marks that appear to be printed or placed to resemble the beehive are often copies. Factories that used a version of the beehive mark include: Ackerman & Fritze (1908-present), Phillip Aigner (ca. 1900), Bourdois & Bloch (ca. 1900), Carl Knoll (1848-1945), Langewiesen Factory (1892-present), Edme Samson (1845-1905), and many anonymous potteries of the late 19th and 20th centuries." Antique marks for shield, pottery-porcelain-marks | Kovels.com

 

[AU Seeker]

Doing a little more research I agree with Surf that it could be Royal Vienna or a copy, I also found other marks that look much the same, such as this Arnart mark, which is the only one I could find that had the dot that your's has.

Do a search with the keywords, Royal Vienna, Arnart, Bindenschild, and any of the names in Surf's post and you'll still mostly likely have to have an experts verify what you have.

Arnart Porcelain Jewelry Box Victorian Courting Couples Beehive Mark by Collectable-tyme

 

[surf]

I think you nailed it, AU, Courting Couples sure seems to be the motif.

Nicely done.

VIntage Cake Plate English Courting Couple

 

[AU Seeker]

I think you nailed it, AU, Courting Couples sure seems to be the motif.

Nicely done.

View attachment 831542 VIntage Cake Plate English Courting Couple

Comparing the two almost identical plates, I think that Cherry's plate maybe of a higher quality, the details and gold plating is more refined on Cherry's plate, IMHO

 

[surf]

Yeah, I don't much care for the pink & gold on the bullseye on that one I stuck up. Maybe she'll give us the rest of the pictures and we can have a QC meeting. Looks like she bought it right, too. Will she tell us if the outer vignettes are identical?

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Just found one with mixed back marks, higher fidelity, too.

Vintage Arnart STW Bavaria

 

[cherrypicked]

Sorry for the delay. My phone hasn't been working and I forget to check the PC. I've found that the pattern is Fragonard's love story. I bought each piece for between 99 cents and 1.99. I was able to get a full 5 person place setting, a serving dish, gravy boat and plate, along with an additional 6 fruit bowls,7 bread and butter plates and 5 salad plates. I spent roughly 50 dollars for all of them and found that the 28 piece set that would make up the 5 person setting plus the serving dish and gravy boat is worth between 1k-2k.

 

[TheRingFinder]

Cherry - Do you get this stuff from garage sales, craigslist, swap meets?

 

[cherrypicked]

I get stuff from all over the place. I used to use my metal detector to find neat civil war pieces but that's in storage down in VA. This set I actually found at Goodwill. I live in a somewhat affluent area so the donations they get can be amazing. It is not unusual for me to find pieces that are worth well over 100 dollars for 99 cents and a handful of times I have found things that go for over a thousand. I also frequent estate and garage sales.

 

[Mackaydon]

I agree with AU Seeker: Arnart Imports, New York (1957-2001) possible imitation of the Vienna Beehive mark. Several are shown here (scroll down):
Ginni's Bohemian & Czech Porcelain Reference & Information Fakes & Frauds Part II
Don.....

 

[Mackaydon]

First time the mark was used in commerce was Dec. 30, 1957.
Here's more on the mark: http://www.trademarkia.com/logo-72068459.html
Don....

 

[cherrypicked]

Thanks for the info. It's appreciated. :-)