What kind of bullet ?

[keossvin]

Found this bullet in a forrest where i've found a lot of ww2 bullets before. But this is a weird one.
On the right a k98 bull casing.

i canr find any numbers or letters on the end and it also has lost the primer.

Any idea what kind of bullet it is ?
(Btw found this in a dutch forrest..)

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[Bruce R]

I used to have some tapered rifle bullets like that. Nazi, unused still in the box, I believe they were Steyr.

 

[NOLA_Ken]

Can't see the headstamp on the right hand cartridge but if it's Nazi marked it's an 8mm for the Austrian Steyr Mannlicher M-95/30 rifle, They were made during the occupation and pretty much all of them I've ever seen were dated 1938. The one on the left looks like a standard 8mm for the K98 Mauser.

 

[Leatherneck2111]

8x56R Steyr

 

[keossvin]

Can't see the headstamp on the right hand cartridge but if it's Nazi marked it's an 8mm for the Austrian Steyr Mannlicher M-95/30 rifle, They were made during the occupation and pretty much all of them I've ever seen were dated 1938. The one on the left looks like a standard 8mm for the K98 Mauser.

Haha I always thought the one on the right was from a mauser(its stamped 1943)

The 'mauser' round is stamped 44 after I cleaned it up.

 

[keossvin]

Can't see the headstamp on the right hand cartridge but if it's Nazi marked it's an 8mm for the Austrian Steyr Mannlicher M-95/30 rifle, They were made during the occupation and pretty much all of them I've ever seen were dated 1938. The one on the left looks like a standard 8mm for the K98 Mauser.

Oh btw* any idea what could've happend tot the primer ?

 

[NOLA_Ken]

Was it found in a battlefield area?
i ask because it's kind of an odd find. As I remember the rifles that fell into German possession after Austria was annexed were mostly issued to local police and military police divisions and weren't issued to front line troops since the ammo was incompatible with the K98...

 

[keossvin]

Was it found in a battlefield area?
i ask because it's kind of an odd find. As I remember the rifles that fell into German possession after Austria was annexed were mostly issued to local police and military police divisions and weren't issued to front line troops since the ammo was incompatible with the K98...

I've gone through books and all at the libary and asked my grandfather but nobody knows about a 'battle' yet i've found around 10 ww2 rounds and even a .50 cal round.

I live in the Netherlands is it possible it was a dutch round ? For the m95 mannlicher

 

[NOLA_Ken]

It's possible, it could have been fired by occupation police who may have been issued those rifles. Also could be from Dutch Resistance fighters, they used a lot of different weapons.... The primer on the K98 round was probably steel and it just rusted away..

 

[keossvin]

It's possible, it could have been fired by occupation police who may have been issued those rifles. The primer on the K98 round was probably steel and it just rusted away..

After some intensive searching on the round, it looks like there are 2 letters but i'm not sure : as/a5/ad ??

Hmm could be, I do know a lot of people in our town used to provide illegal shelter to jews and that of course a lot of people got caught. Could they he executed there ?

 

[NOLA_Ken]

Hard to say, and things like that are generally something people don't like talking about. Not sure on the lettering, but if you search 8mm headstamps a lot of different examples come up...

 

[keossvin]

Hard to say, and things like that are generally something people don't like talking about. Not sure on the lettering, but if you search 8mm headstamps a lot of different examples come up...

Thanks for all the info !

 

[NOLA_Ken]

You're welcome!

 

[pistol-pete]

The right hand one is a 303 British. Rimmed case and short neck. 99 % sure

 

[Bruce R]

Don't forget that a lot of rifles ended up in civilian hands for hunting purposes, it's possible to find dropped cartridges damn near anywhere.

 

[keossvin]

The right hand one is a 303 British. Rimmed case and short neck. 99 % sure

Sure ? After looking up the stamped codes it told me it was a german fabric but I didn't look very good so there may be a british fabric with the same stamped code.

Also In found another '303. British' and saw the inside was full with small orange straws like in the photo, instead of the normal blackpowder. Haven't seen any other bullets with those straws any idea if its only a british thing ?

Btw sorry for my grammar english isn't my mother tongue..

 

[keossvin]

The right hand one is a 303 British. Rimmed case and short neck. 99 % sure