What Kind of Gun Did This Come Off of?

[tabdog]

I found this lock plate at an old government
arsenal site, now a city park.

It looks like a flintlock pistol lock plate to me.

Hopefully someone may know what it is,

Thanks fer any help,

Tabdog

 

[timekiller]

Nice find but I think it's a flintlock rifle plate.Here's my guess to type and age.(U.S. Model 1816 flintlock musket.
Take Care,
Pete,

 

[Lucas]

It's percussion. Notch is for the barrel bolster. There are flintlocks with removable pans, but this lock has no holes for the frizzen or frizzen spring screws.

 

[sniffer]

it comes from a gun that goes BOOM, with a big cloud of smoke. LOL
just kidding, don't know but it looks neat

 

[timekiller]

It's percussion. Notch is for the barrel bolster. There are flintlocks with removable pans, but this lock has no holes for the frizzen or frizzen spring screws.

Got ahead of myself, needed to look at the big picture. You right it be more like this US Springfield Model

 

[Monty]

I am always careful in stating specifically what it might be if it is that far rusted up and parts are missing. Sure as I do, right or wron. someone always jumps in who seems to know better. So, I'll say it's a percusion lock plate for an old rifle and be 100% correct....maybe? M nty

 

[Lucas]

Getting closer! Notice the what's it lock plate has a 90° angle in front of the 'U' notch, and it has a hole for the nub of the mainspring. The plate is also flat like a Enfield, but definitely not a Enfield plate.

 

[timekiller]

Getting closer! Notice the what's it lock plate has a 90° angle in front of the 'U' notch, and it has a hole for the nub of the mainspring. The plate is also flat like a Enfield, but definitely not a Enfield plate.

Damn if you aint picky Ok then how about a american plains gun.(Cica-1830-1860)


http://www.icollector.com/C-1830-1860-American-Plains-rifle_i8523221

The truth is Tabdog there is alot of guns like that shape 90 degrees but I woudn't think to many with that thickness. So the link above is my best guess.It has a zoom feature so you can zoom in on it and see what you think.

 

[Lucas]

Yeah that's where I'm leaning...

A couple locks by Golcher, 1840's to '60's ( )

Also shows a U.S. 1816 percussion conversion.

 

[BosnMate]

It could be a drum and nipple conversion from flint to cap lock. However, there isn't any remains of the pan or holes for the frizzen or frizzen spring, which makes me think it wasn't a conversion. So it could be off of a cap lock rifle or pistol that was manufactured using a drum and and nipple system, which were usually less expensive guns, like the southern poor boy among others. A smaller lock would indicate it was possibly for a pistol.