Which detector did you have that you wanted to wrap around a tree?

[Sandman]

I wondered which detectors were the worst things that people would try to use and wanted to back over them with the truck or wrap them around a tree.

What other methods of distruction would you use on that POS?

 

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[Michigan Badger]

My worst machine was probably my 1983 "Turtle" that was sold by Whites. If one does a search online one will find articles about how worthless that model was. At the time I didn't know about all the problems people were having with it. But that was before Al invented the internet.

The "Turtle" was a waterproof detector for both land and water hunting. It was a great idea with junk electronics (sometime common with Whites in the old days). If you were lucky you could detect a large cent at 3 inches. It was constantly becoming unstable, etc., etc.

I am amazed though at how far detectors have come today. My buddy uses a DFX and he claims 20 inches on dimes. I take the standard 50% discount and allow for general exaggeration and come up with a good 9 inches on a dime...not bad!

Haven't had any tree wrappers in a long time.

Badger

 

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[wildrider]

The MXT makes sounds that absolutely make my spine quiver.
I would say you could use it to ultrasonically kill roaches.

Don't get me wrong, I found good stuff with it, but something about the sound would drive me to the brink of craziness.

I am totally serious. Any other MXT users have this feeling?

I'm a former White's dealer and this is only MY OPINION.

Burt

 

[schlooppy]

Radio shack, Bounty Hunter, Garrett heck I have wanted to wrap every detector I ever used around a tree at one point in time or another

John

 

[HotRodder]

My first was a Jetco Mustang for $19.95?? from Sears and Roebuck in 1970 or so, not sure on the date but it was back there. Still have it and have found lots of stuff with it. Never have wanted to destroy any thing I owned as it took to many hours of work to get them...

 

[Hill City Rebel]

The only detector I have ever wanted to destroy is the one I bought last week - a Minelab Explorer SE. Talk about a pos... If you're interested, read about my experience with it here...

http://treasurehunter.booklocker.com/

It's on sale real cheap. Anybody interested?

HCR

 

[Michigan Badger]

The only detector I have ever wanted to destroy is the one I bought last week - a Minelab Explorer SE. Talk about a pos... If you're interested, read about my experience with it here...

http://treasurehunter.booklocker.com/

It's on sale real cheap. Anybody interested?

HCR

I had to learn the hard way myself. Sorry this had to happen to you too.

We can't trust any of the reviews, depth charts, or even forum posts, because people tend to post lots of unscientific data mainly for attention.

I see you have Tesoro listed as one of your brands. Why in heck would you leave Tesoro to buy a Minelab? Like me you bought into the reviews and forum postings...too bad.

Badger

 

[jopher]

My DFX!
..not that it isnt a good machine....just a tad frustrating at times.

 

[Hill City Rebel]

The only detector I have ever wanted to destroy is the one I bought last week - a Minelab Explorer SE. Talk about a pos... If you're interested, read about my experience with it here...

http://treasurehunter.booklocker.com/

It's on sale real cheap. Anybody interested?

HCR

I had to learn the hard way myself. Sorry this had to happen to you too.

We can't trust any of the reviews, depth charts, or even forum posts, because people tend to post lots of unscientific data mainly for attention.

I see you have Tesoro listed as one of your brands. Why in heck would you leave Tesoro to buy a Minelab? Like me you bought into the reviews and forum postings...too bad.

Badger

I've had two old Tesoros for 10 years (more or less). They were good detectors in their day - I've dug a lot of coins with them. I don't use them anymore, just save them for when I take the kids out. HCR

 

[Michigan Badger]

I've had two old Tesoros for 10 years (more or less). They were good detectors in their day - I've dug a lot of coins with them. I don't use them anymore, just save them for when I take the kids out. HCR

Try one of the new DeLeon, Cortes, or better yet, Tejon.

That Tejon kicks Nautilus. I owned 2 Nautilus IIBs and sold them both after finding out about the Tejon.

You might just be surprised at how much Tesoro has learned

 

[cryptodave]

The only detector I have ever wanted to destroy is the one I bought last week - a Minelab Explorer SE. Talk about a pos... If you're interested, read about my experience with it here...

http://treasurehunter.booklocker.com/

It's on sale real cheap. Anybody interested?

HCR

I read your little outburst a little while ago. How much is Tesoro paying you? LOL
Honestly, I have not used a better machine, and invite you to come on down to meet up with me. I'll teach you how to use it properly.

 

[Hill City Rebel]

The only detector I have ever wanted to destroy is the one I bought last week - a Minelab Explorer SE. Talk about a pos... If you're interested, read about my experience with it here...

http://treasurehunter.booklocker.com/

It's on sale real cheap. Anybody interested?

HCR

I read your little outburst a little while ago. How much is Tesoro paying you? LOL
Honestly, I have not used a better machine, and invite you to come on down to meet up with me. I'll teach you how to use it properly.

Thanks for the invitation, but I'll just stick to my Shadow and Fisher. But if you have some hot digging spots, well... I'll be glad to meet up with you. I'll bring along a real machine and show that SE up. I hope I didn't sound like I was having an outburst earlier - I really was just trying to pass along my experience with the machine. Thanks much for your reply, HCR

 

[Michigan Badger]

Thanks for the invitation, but I'll just stick to my Shadow and Fisher. But if you have some hot digging spots, well... I'll be glad to meet up with you. I'll bring along a real machine and show that SE up. I hope I didn't sound like I was having an outburst earlier - I really was just trying to pass along my experience with the machine. Thanks much for your reply, HCR

You did the right thing. I personally have no loyalty to any brand and have even badmouthed Tesoro from time to time. I found loads of super deep coins and relics with the Nautilus IIB but I've also told some people not to buy one for several reasons.

I've not used the SE but a couple years ago I did buy a new Excalibur 1000 at the same time Floater and Rod did. In fact we all went at the same time to get our machines. At first I loved it for its excellent depth but then learned it's strictly a water wadding machine and absolutely sucks as a land machine. It was so slow at retune and pinpointing was awful (typical of Minelab) and it was so stinkin heavy and it didn't separate targets worth a crap that I sold it for like $700. No, depth is most definitely NOT everything as you had to learn the hard way (expensive way).

I love Australia and some of my best friends live there. I really hope some day soon they do make the best machine but they haven't done it yet. To this day it's still the U.S.A. that makes the best (not perfect).

Badger

 

[cryptodave]

Thanks for the invitation, but I'll just stick to my Shadow and Fisher. But if you have some hot digging spots, well... I'll be glad to meet up with you. I'll bring along a real machine and show that SE up. I hope I didn't sound like I was having an outburst earlier - I really was just trying to pass along my experience with the machine. Thanks much for your reply, HCR

You did the right thing. I personally have no loyalty to any brand and have even badmouthed Tesoro from time to time. I found loads of super deep coins and relics with the Nautilus IIB but I've also told some people not to buy one for several reasons.

I've not used the SE but a couple years ago I did buy a new Excalibur 1000 at the same time Floater and Rod did. In fact we all went at the same time to get our machines. At first I loved it for its excellent depth but then learned it's strictly a water wadding machine and absolutely sucks as a land machine. It would hit 10+ inches on a freshly buried quarter but the retune was so slow and pinpointing was awful (typical of Minelab) and it was so stinkin heavy and it didn't separate targets worth a crap that I sold it for like $700. No, depth is most definitely NOT everything as you had to learn the hard way (expensive way).

I love Australia and some of my best friends live there. I really hope some day soon they do make the best machine but they haven't done it yet. To this day it's still the U.S.A. that makes the best (not perfect).

Badger

The DFX weighs more than the Explorer BTW, not by much but its still annoying hearing people complain about its weight.
I have nothing against any machine, as you've seen I'm even a staunch supporter of BH products.... WIth that being said, I wouldn't trade my Explorer for any other machine. I guess it boils down to how much time you put into a machine to understand the pros and cons, the operating differences and the little nuances that make each machine hum right.
I have a good friend that swings a Naughty and just bought a Tejon. Both seem to be great detectors, matter of fact I've never seen anything go as deep as the Naughty. The Tejon seems to like iron alot, but I didn't play with it and he just got it so again, he doesn't really have the stick time on it for me to make a true opinion.
I've been out hunted by a guy with a Fisher 1260x, and I've out hunted guys with DFXs and other Explorers. It really boils down to putting the coil to the soil in the right places and again, truly understanding the machine.
I just don't see the reason in bad mouthing machines. Just because it didn't work the way you wanted to doesn't mean it hasn't satisfied thousands of other people, and certainly no sense in writing a blog about how crappy it is.

 

[Michigan Badger]

Thanks for the invitation, but I'll just stick to my Shadow and Fisher. But if you have some hot digging spots, well... I'll be glad to meet up with you. I'll bring along a real machine and show that SE up. I hope I didn't sound like I was having an outburst earlier - I really was just trying to pass along my experience with the machine. Thanks much for your reply, HCR

You did the right thing. I personally have no loyalty to any brand and have even badmouthed Tesoro from time to time. I found loads of super deep coins and relics with the Nautilus IIB but I've also told some people not to buy one for several reasons.

I've not used the SE but a couple years ago I did buy a new Excalibur 1000 at the same time Floater and Rod did. In fact we all went at the same time to get our machines. At first I loved it for its excellent depth but then learned it's strictly a water wadding machine and absolutely sucks as a land machine. It would hit 10+ inches on a freshly buried quarter but the retune was so slow and pinpointing was awful (typical of Minelab) and it was so stinkin heavy and it didn't separate targets worth a crap that I sold it for like $700. No, depth is most definitely NOT everything as you had to learn the hard way (expensive way).

I love Australia and some of my best friends live there. I really hope some day soon they do make the best machine but they haven't done it yet. To this day it's still the U.S.A. that makes the best (not perfect).

Badger

The DFX weighs more than the Explorer BTW, not by much but its still annoying hearing people complain about its weight.
I have nothing against any machine, as you've seen I'm even a staunch supporter of BH products.... WIth that being said, I wouldn't trade my Explorer for any other machine. I guess it boils down to how much time you put into a machine to understand the pros and cons, the operating differences and the little nuances that make each machine hum right.
I have a good friend that swings a Naughty and just bought a Tejon. Both seem to be great detectors, matter of fact I've never seen anything go as deep as the Naughty. The Tejon seems to like iron alot, but I didn't play with it and he just got it so again, he doesn't really have the stick time on it for me to make a true opinion.
I've been out hunted by a guy with a Fisher 1260x, and I've out hunted guys with DFXs and other Explorers. It really boils down to putting the coil to the soil in the right places and again, truly understanding the machine.
I just don't see the reason in bad mouthing machines. Just because it didn't work the way you wanted to doesn't mean it hasn't satisfied thousands of other people, and certainly no sense in writing a blog about how crappy it is.

Yes, very good post and true.

Sometimes we do get a bit carried away.

 

[cosmic]

l need opinons on detectors.. As to depth and discrimination in iron and nail infested areas... Looking at the Nautilas IIb, Whites m6 and up, and the Fisher 75 also..I have a SE which is for sale, by the way... I don't want to make the same mistake again!!! Before anyone asks I have 3-4 hours a day for 2 months on the SE and used it in all modes and sounds...Not good in the iron infested ground or nail feilds here..
So I'm in search of a machine with better see-thru for good targets..I'm not intimidated with program or adjustments.. so help if you can.. Thanks for your insite and time...
Ray

 

[Michigan Badger]

l need opinons on detectors.. As to depth and discrimination in iron and nail infested areas... Looking at the Nautilas IIb, Whites m6 and up, and the Fisher 75 also..I have a SE which is for sale, by the way... I don't want to make the same mistake again!!! Before anyone asks I have 3-4 hours a day for 2 months on the SE and used it in all modes and sounds...Not good in the iron infested ground or nail feilds here..
So I'm in search of a machine with better see-thru for good targets..I'm not intimidated with program or adjustments.. so help if you can.. Thanks for your insite and time...
Ray

I'll toss my thoughts into the hat.

I've had a lot of experience with the Nautilus IIB as I owned two (now sold) and spent maybe 200 hours hunting with them. The Nautilus is capable of great depth but like all these super deep detectors it has its problems.

First, coil size is very important. The Nautilus gets its supreme depth from the 15-inch coil which is an absolute pain in the butt if used in brushy or trashy areas. It was meant for low trash open CW relic hunting, not coin shooting or relic hunting in brush filled areas. I did a YouTube video with the Naughty and 15-inch coil where I dug a small quarter sized brass buckle at at least 15-inches deep. It's depth can blow you away at times.

But the Naut is definitely not for coin shooting in trashy areas. It will false and chatter like crazy and drive you nuts UNLESS you use only the 6-inch coil. The Nautilus with 6 inch coil is a coin/jewelry killer in trashy areas. I sold my 6-inch coil for the 10-inch and that was a BIG mistake.

And too the Nautilus IIB can be very difficult to ground balance and coil balance. Battery condition, powerlines, soil conditions, weather and air temps all greatly affect the IIB. She absolutely hates water in any form. You can't use the Nautilus coil under water. And speaking of their coils, read their forums and you will see that having to return a coil for repairs is common. The Nautilus coils go out of tune very easily. I had to return my 15-incher and the company cracked it while sawing it open. It was a mess when I got it back so I sold it cheap to someone who was willing to take a chance with it. I lost $100 on that coil and only had it for 1 month.

Balance wise it sucks as it comes stock. You must do a Whites rod modification if you don't want to kill your arm (cost about $100).

I could write more but you get the idea. If you buy the Nautilus get the IIBa NOT the IIB. The IIBa has automatic coil balancing which is very important to get a chirp-free threshhold. If you hunt relics in low trash areas and you don't hunt in the rain it could work for you. It should be awesome with the 6-inch coil even at trashy sites.

One positive thing about Nautilus (besides the depth) is it's great at working around iron. I dug almost zero square nails with it. But when it comes to finding good targets next to iron you can't beat Tesoro.

HH,

Badger

 

[Hill City Rebel]

Thanks for the invitation, but I'll just stick to my Shadow and Fisher. But if you have some hot digging spots, well... I'll be glad to meet up with you. I'll bring along a real machine and show that SE up. I hope I didn't sound like I was having an outburst earlier - I really was just trying to pass along my experience with the machine. Thanks much for your reply, HCR

You did the right thing. I personally have no loyalty to any brand and have even badmouthed Tesoro from time to time. I found loads of super deep coins and relics with the Nautilus IIB but I've also told some people not to buy one for several reasons.

I've not used the SE but a couple years ago I did buy a new Excalibur 1000 at the same time Floater and Rod did. In fact we all went at the same time to get our machines. At first I loved it for its excellent depth but then learned it's strictly a water wadding machine and absolutely sucks as a land machine. It would hit 10+ inches on a freshly buried quarter but the retune was so slow and pinpointing was awful (typical of Minelab) and it was so stinkin heavy and it didn't separate targets worth a crap that I sold it for like $700. No, depth is most definitely NOT everything as you had to learn the hard way (expensive way).

I love Australia and some of my best friends live there. I really hope some day soon they do make the best machine but they haven't done it yet. To this day it's still the U.S.A. that makes the best (not perfect).

Badger

The DFX weighs more than the Explorer BTW, not by much but its still annoying hearing people complain about its weight.
I have nothing against any machine, as you've seen I'm even a staunch supporter of BH products.... WIth that being said, I wouldn't trade my Explorer for any other machine. I guess it boils down to how much time you put into a machine to understand the pros and cons, the operating differences and the little nuances that make each machine hum right.
I have a good friend that swings a Naughty and just bought a Tejon. Both seem to be great detectors, matter of fact I've never seen anything go as deep as the Naughty. The Tejon seems to like iron alot, but I didn't play with it and he just got it so again, he doesn't really have the stick time on it for me to make a true opinion.
I've been out hunted by a guy with a Fisher 1260x, and I've out hunted guys with DFXs and other Explorers. It really boils down to putting the coil to the soil in the right places and again, truly understanding the machine.
I just don't see the reason in bad mouthing machines. Just because it didn't work the way you wanted to doesn't mean it hasn't satisfied thousands of other people, and certainly no sense in writing a blog about how crappy it is.

I certainly don't mean to "badmouth" the SE, just telling it like it is. From the responses I've gotten, a lot of people agree with my analysis. I just wish someone had written a similar paragraph or two about the SE before I bought mine - then I wouldn't have had to write anything at all. Regards, HCR

 

[Michigan Badger]

I certainly don't mean to "badmouth" the SE, just telling it like it is. From the responses I've gotten, a lot of people agree with my analysis. I just wish someone had written a similar paragraph or two about the SE before I bought mine - then I wouldn't have had to write anything at all. Regards, HCR

Also a VERY good point. I bought some lemons because I couldn't find anything negative about them online.
Badger

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

l need opinons on detectors.. As to depth and discrimination in iron and nail infested areas... Looking at the Nautilas IIb, Whites m6 and up, and the Fisher 75 also..I have a SE which is for sale, by the way... I don't want to make the same mistake again!!! Before anyone asks I have 3-4 hours a day for 2 months on the SE and used it in all modes and sounds...Not good in the iron infested ground or nail feilds here..
So I'm in search of a machine with better see-thru for good targets..I'm not intimidated with program or adjustments.. so help if you can.. Thanks for your insite and time...
Ray

I just sent my check for a Fisher F-75. That's a lot of "hobby" money to me, which I saved up over a few months. I can't give a better endorsement on my own beliefs (and hopes) than that. I've talked to dealers and owners and felt it's worth it.