Whites " Dual Field "surf pi pro ratings?

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Who hunts with the "new" Dual field surf pi pro? Do you like or dislike it? Like to see your finds!
Don't see many posts about it.

 

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[fsa46]

L O V E [/COLOR]my Dual Field!

The only thing I like as much as my Dual Field is my other Dual Field .

Joe, please refrain from posting pictures like this in the future. Don't want guys running out and buying DFPIs.

 

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[Sir Gala Clad]

I've the opposite experience with the 2 sharks I own. For multiple years, not a problem, other than a hole in a coil that I wore into it myself on shells without a coil cover. You will continually hear talk of "no iron" with the excal, what you don't hear about is the tiny tid bits of aluminum foil, gum wrappers, pop tops, pull tabs, rivets, and twist ties, that it loves to find. To this date, i've yet to find a single piece of aluminum foil or twist ties with my Sharks, yet have no problem finding the most minute of gold. Likewise, i've not had issues with depth. Any deeper, I would need an excavator. To the OP, I don't care for the wagon wheel, overly buoyant coil myself.

"You will continually hear talk of "no iron" with the excal, what you don't hear about is the tiny tid bits of aluminum foil, gum wrappers, pop tops, pull tabs, rivets, and twist ties, that it loves to find. "
This has been my experience with the Excall 11 1000 using minimum discrimination , except for twist ties - my experience is that the excall nulls on them as the wire in them is ferrous?

The detection of tiny bits of aluminum foil, gum wrappers and other tiny non ferrous targets usually occurs when digging iffy signals as the Excal can detect
smaller targets than it is calibrated for. I only dig iffy signals in known productive areas after retrieving all good targets first as it is most often a waste of effort and time.

"To this date, i've yet to find a single piece of aluminum foil or twist ties with my Sharks"
- Why would a PI not see aluminum foil or twist ties?
- Would this be true for PI detectors in general or is it unique to the Sand Shark.

 

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I've hunted with a shark and it finds these things too!

 

[lovee]

Beach Hunting

Yes true! I have an excal 1000 and a whites dual field pi.
I've owned 6 sand sharks due to constant leak problems, 2 dual fields Hating and trying again, beach hunter 300 id, and an old industrial whites detector I got scammed into buying years ago by a dealer.
I only hunt with salt water, water proof machines and dual field has insane depth but not fun when you're digging a constantly sinking target in the surf for 20 minutes and finding out its a junk target at 20 plus inches.
Sand shark VCO mode is killer for finds but kind of a shallow machine on depth and after constant leaks from coils to earphones I've decided I was done with them.
Mailing in a shark for $30 a pop x 6 times will piss anybody off!
New coils, new ear phones and constant problems. Sure it seams like BS but it happened!
Dual field floating coil kind of sucks too.
Doesn't seam to be a very stable machine in the water either!
Beach hunter kind of a toy but finds great stuff in the dry sand.
Running excal 1000 now and couldn't be happier!
Now I can hunt all metal mode or discrimination when ever I want to but been running all metal lately and using disc to confirm it is not iron before I continue.
Sure vlf is a joke on depth and pi is deepest but I found a happy medium and went bbs.
Definitely is deeper then the sand shark with an 8" coil I was running!

I hunt mostly the Beach in Canada fresh water.I use a Minelab Sovereign GT (BBS) with the 15" WOT Coil and get crazy depth but the machine isn't water proof..I also use a Whites Dual Field PI and it's a great Deep machine.I dig Everything,so what,,Gold is too close to some tabs and I hunt in AM with the GT...I think they are too great Detectors..

 

[DrunkBrother]

Hi Everyone,
May i ASK OPINION after you read my story/details,
I have never used PI machine yet in my 2 year carrier of metal detecting, started with Gold bug 2, found it is not suitable for beach , upgraded to Excalibur and now have CTX3030 and Excalibur. i have done HUNDREDS of hour Metal detecting in last 2 years with 8 trips, one week each JUST METAL DETECTING (that is pure 300 hours of detecting in a year)

and here is my conclusion for beach hunting (please look at my bullet point carefully , it is still my opinion)

Detecting at Coral atolls/lagoons, like pasific island :
* thin to moderate layer of sand over Coral base (2 inches to 7 inches)
- as no current in lagoon, lots of junk targets, when you are on treasure hunting trip/holiday, you do not want to dig all steel clad coins, bobby pins and construction rumple(nails) from near by resort. So BBS mashine will provide best KPI of GF/H (Good find per hour),
- Disadvantage: you will not find any Chains.

Detecting at the city beaches (lets take Australia and NZ where i detect- Auckland, Sydney and so on)
- you HAVE to have DISC machine, or all beer tops (hundreds and hundreds) and other rubbish is yours
-at this beaches the choice is simple that you simply will struggle to with PI machine.
My team, has about 6 active members with Half of them detecting with PI machines for many years - they never were going to those city beaches, as they were struggling, all of them are now using CTX3030 or Excliburs for discrimination. we had challenges where we were going and comparing finds and quality of them based on same beach and time spent - BBS were winning the quality of finds
- and yes, aluminum is terrible.. Excal loves it. , but it "shapes" the sound for slivers of aluminum , but not the blobs.

Now, to support People with PI : Detecting in Ocean surf beaches (My trip to Gold Coast) or beaches that you know have Rock/clay bottom with sand over 10-12 inches
- You MUST HAVE PI machine in your arsenal to take to such beaches or LOW spots that got sanded in
- I wish i had PI machine on my trip to Gold Coast as all Aluminum was washed away there , but heavier targets sink very quick.

So to finalize my opinion :
IT is not the machine that rule the beach and not even the experience of a person piloting one machine...
IT is COMBINATION of reading the condition, knowing your beach/area and being confident in your Excal or Dual field and taking the right machine to the water at the given time.

if you agree with me - just like my post ;-) do not flame me

 

[Sir Gala Clad]

As I live at a remote location it cost(s) me an average of $70 to insure and return a metal detector for repair. At $70 a pop it would cost me $420.00 just to return the detector even if the repair is done under warranty at no additional cost.
At average turnaround of two weeks, I would have lost 84 days of use in a year; in other works the detector would be down 23.04% of the time.
For these reason(s), I carefully monitor the repair history of any detector which I own. When it fails the first time, I have it repaired and depending on the reason for failure determine if I sell it or continue to use it. If it fails the second time it is gone, if it is the result of normal use. I do not care why on a third repair as I rigorously follow a three strike and you’re out policy.

It's Strike One for Mr Minelab!
Poor connection between wire and pin(s) of battery Pod connector to Excalibur ll
May of been the result of overtightening as the battery cable was carefully handled
as all external cables are a weak spot of the pod design.

Yes true! I have an excal 1000 and a whites dual field pi.
I've owned 6 sand sharks due to constant leak problems, 2 dual fields Hating and trying again, beach hunter 300 id, and an old industrial whites detector I got scammed into buying years ago by a dealer.
I only hunt with salt water, water proof machines and dual field has insane depth but not fun when you're digging a constantly sinking target in the surf for 20 minutes and finding out its a junk target at 20 plus inches.
Sand shark VCO mode is killer for finds but kind of a shallow machine on depth and after constant leaks from coils to earphones I've decided I was done with them.
Mailing in a shark for $30 a pop x 6 times will piss anybody off!
New coils, new ear phones and constant problems. Sure it seams like BS but it happened!
Dual field floating coil kind of sucks too.
Doesn't seam to be a very stable machine in the water either!
Beach hunter kind of a toy but finds great stuff in the dry sand.
Running excal 1000 now and couldn't be happier!
Now I can hunt all metal mode or discrimination when ever I want to but been running all metal lately and using disc to confirm it is not iron before I continue.
Sure vlf is a joke on depth and pi is deepest but I found a happy medium and went bbs.
Definitely is deeper then the sand shark with an 8" coil I was running!

 

[Northern Lights]

Only water detector I've used the last few years ! Worked great in salt water too. Digging everything is good exercise and there will be a lot less of it the next time around. I need the extra depth on the Great Lakes. I love to dig the tiny whisper signals that the others miss using all the other detectors, vlf or otherwise.

 

[H-2 CHARLIE]

How good will the Duel field do on gold pickers or 1/4 gram nuggets ?

 

[Steve Herschbach]

Rings with White's Surf PI Pro

Been a White's Surf PI fan for years. Hard to beat for simple, reliable, and affordable. I just got a new Surf DF but have no finds to post with it yet. Maybe in a few weeks. Here are some I found with my old Surf PI Pro at White's Surf PI Pro and Platinum Rings in Hawaii. I got four platinum and three gold rings. One of the gold rings is white gold so it looks like only two gold. All fairly plain men's bands reflecting the rough surf area I was hunting. There is a picture of everything I dug at the link including the junk.