why bother?

[mastereagle22]

Had a chance to hit a 6 acre field that belongs to my father-in-law tonight for 15 mins. He told me he has found lots of arrow heads in the field after it is plowed, unfortunately this year they didn't plow or plant in the field. Anyway I didn't find anything earth shattering just weird.

The Items from the left to right top down are a metal triangle part off a tractor (I know because I now have two of these found in different locations), a stange piece of melted very light metal, a bullet from a rifle(?) an item I am unsure of and then a big item I am unsure of.

The big item is around 9 inches long the end is not bent it was made that way, the black part is rubber I think, and it used to be green. That is all I can tell you about it. The little round item appears to be made out of lead, it is flat on the bottom rounded and too big to be a shot from a shot gun. The dime is for size comparison only, I did not find it. My guess on the round item is a flattened/deformed 22 bullet. What do you guys and ladies think?

 

[dano91]

It's a shifter arm for a car....4 speed maybe. Take it to a auto parts store and find out which car. All though from the size it may be shifter off riding lawnmower.
Dano & Yogi

 

[wirelessworldinc]

i have no clue. looked at it and what i am looking at looks likes the end of a spoon and the othe piece which is a big black item looks like something i have seen before but for the likes of me i can not remember, sorry. I hope you identify it Mary ann

 

[Baldingboy]

I concur. I believe the whatz-it is a shifter and floor boot from a vehicle of some sort. I think your are correct in your analysis of the bullet as well. Just my 2 cents....by the way, why is it "a penny for your thoughts" but you have to "throw your two cents in".

Hey! I guess that's why we find so many darn pennies with our detectors.

 

[BioProfessor]

It's early and I'm decaffeinated but doesn't that "deformed" .22cal bullet look awful round? And doesn't it look like a machine cut sprue and a mold line? Musket ball?? Just doesn't look anything like a .22 cal bullet fired or unfired I've seen. Well let me drink some coffee and look at it again later after everyone who can see straight, sets me straight.

Daryl

 

[mastereagle22]

It's early and I'm decaffeinated but doesn't that "deformed" .22cal bullet look awful round? And doesn't it look like a machine cut sprue and a mold line? Musket ball?? Just doesn't look anything like a .22 cal bullet fired or unfired I've seen. Well let me drink some coffee and look at it again later after everyone who can see straight, sets me straight.

Daryl

Well my first thought is that it is round on purpose and not from deformity but I am NOT a bullet expert. Also I have never seen a musket ball so small and I am ignorant about such things but did they make musket balls that small?? At first I thought it was split shot but there is no hole in it no split it is in my uninformed opinion just as it was made. The item came from a field that has had arrow heads found in it and within 1/8th of a mile from an old general store sight from 1820s if that helps at all. I do plan on going back and running through the whole field which will probably take at least one 12 hr day to do correctly. I am also trying to secure permission from the owner of the property where the general store used to sit as well as an old church site from the same time period, but both areas are on private property and the owners aren't too excited about granting permission to hunt. I will let you know.

 

[BioProfessor]

Maybe it is part of a "buck and ball" load. That would be:

The other main ingredient besides the powder charge is the bullet. Many different types of bullets were used at Mill Springs. The flintlock and conversion muskets and the M1842 muskets had smoothbore barrels, and fired round lead balls. A favorite cartridge for this type of weapon was called "buck and ball," because it consisted of one .65 caliber lead ball, and three .31 caliber buckshot. This gave four potentially deadly projectiles fired with each round. None of the smoothbore ammunition was very accurate at ranges beyond about one hundred yards, but in the close-in fighting at Mill Springs, those units firing buck and ball likely had a devastating effect on the enemy. Many examples of buck and ball ammunition have been found on the Mill Springs battlefield.

.31 caliber is 8mm in diameter. Roosevelt is 8mm from end of nose to back of ear. Is that close?

Daryl

 

[mastereagle22]

Yes it fits in the spot you mentioned between the nose and ear. So are you saying that I may have found an old musketball? If so any idea how old? My heart is beating really fast right now because of excitement, but I am trying not to get to excited!!!

 

[BioProfessor]

Think you're going to have some of the civil war members help out on this one. All we have determined is that it is about the right size. Not sure how many of the civil war experts are reading your post with the title you have. If you don't get someone to respond shortly, you might want to remove the bullet and relist it by itself with a question more about it being part of a "Buck and Ball" load. The experts can tell you if it is an area that might have that and whether your find matches what others have found.

Good Luck.

Daryl

 

[Rayman]

I think that bullet is from an early black powder pistol.One flat spot is from the lever they used to pack the ball in the cylinder, the other is from the bullet hitting somthing. Maybe .32 caliber? I've found a few here in Texas. Look just like that. Cool find!

 

[davesx]

Hi all
I have found lots of lead balls of different sizes,here is an example




Dave

 

[BioProfessor]

Looks pretty close to me. Your bullet and the ones from Davesx.

Daryl

 

[mastereagle22]

Looks pretty close to me. Your bullet and the ones from Davesx.

Daryl

yes I think so too, but I still am not sure approx when it would have been made, used etc? I appreciate all your help!!

 

[lonesomebob]

The round ball is a hand cast muzzleloading rifle ball. the flat spot is where the sprue was cut off. It is probably a dropped ball and not fired. the others canprobably fired and deformed balls. size is figured in .o1 as .45 is 45 caliber. Bob.

 

[jivey]

I think the long shiny thing is a tooth from either a hay rake or a hay baler. Looks a lot like the ones on our equipment, but maybe a different brand.

Jim and Carolyn Ivey

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Rubber mounted rake tooth (having been painted green - probably from a John Deere)

And there are still hundreds of thousands of various sized round lead balls tossed around anually by a few knutz like myself (that's me in the middle).

 

[captain Jack]

those little lead balls could be buckshot too...just a thought.

 

[Wildfirefighter72]

Rubber mounted rake tooth (having been painted green - probably from a John Deere)

And there are still hundreds of thousands of various sized round lead balls tossed around anually by a few knutz like myself (that's me in the middle).

Yep that is what it is. The triangle thing you have there is the cutting tooth off the swather,