Why do we spend money on these machines?

[The Beep Goes On]

Any experienced detectorist knows that any junk signal could be a significant find. The only benefit gained by reliable TID is to allow for the user to bypass unwanted targets. The same could, of course, be said about discrimination. If you run all metal, or at least the non-ferrous portion of the spectrum, then you are, basically, left with one indicator; is the target in the junk range, or not. With current technology we are digging less, but is that a good thing? Any reluctance to dig is a sign, to me at least, that I need to get with the program.

 

[mrs.oroblanco]

99% of the time, we dig everything. There are a few exceptions - like when I go over the "beer tent" ground and I know there are 1000's of tabs in a small area - and even then, I've occasionally found quarters and dimes that was being thrown off by tabs.

I've detected with Tesoro, Garrets, different Whites and Minelab 2200. I have never seen a gauge that is always right - and I've never seen a gauge that will tell me the same thing constantly. (I've seen them say 'trash' one time, the next sweep said a nickle, the next sweep it says something else - all the same item).

Sold the Minelab, but still have the Whites, the Garret and - more than one Tesoro. If you can hear the differences in the way a Tesoro talks, you can tell what you might not want to dig.

Mr. O and I went to a carnival ground one time, and the guy who takes care of it (lived on-site) said - "don't bother - there have been 11 people here, just yesterday after they took down the rides - they cleaned it out). For the next 2 days, we found over 100 dollars worth of change, and several rings, necklaces and earrings. (all with the Tesoros). Abe (the care-taker) could not believe it.

All I can say is "Dig it".

B

 

[Woodland Detectors]

One of the worse mistakes I made in detecting was watching the screen. It didn't take long until I was taught a lesson. Now many years later I really can't imagine looking at the ID for any reason. It's one of those things that makes zero sense to me because if you know your detector it changes nothing. (for where I hunt anyway)

Thanks Iron man for saving me typing

 

[Iron Patch]

One of the worse mistakes I made in detecting was watching the screen. It didn't take long until I was taught a lesson. Now many years later I really can't imagine looking at the ID for any reason. It's one of those things that makes zero sense to me because if you know your detector it changes nothing. (for where I hunt anyway)

Thanks Iron man for saving me typing

My lesson was getting a beat down from an old Tesoro.... while using my fancy new $1,000+ GTI. It was just a park hunt, but while I was busy making all my great decisions whether to dig, my bud was ... get this... digging! (and finding - more)

 

[BuckleBoy]

One of the worse mistakes I made in detecting was watching the screen. It didn't take long until I was taught a lesson. Now many years later I really can't imagine looking at the ID for any reason. It's one of those things that makes zero sense to me because if you know your detector it changes nothing. (for where I hunt anyway)

Thanks Iron man for saving me typing

My lesson was getting a beat down from an old Tesoro.... while using my fancy new $1,000+ GTI. It was just a park hunt, but while I was busy making all my great decisions whether to dig, my bud was ... get this... digging! (and finding - more)

It was the Tesoro.

 

[RPG]

Absolutely.

I dig it all. I usually know what it is before I dig it--and I am usually right. But I have been surprised in the past by a few BIG finds.


Here's a good post I wrote on this same topic a while ago on the forum. I also talk about how the market seems to be "grooming us" for the meter and eliminating the knob:

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,178510.0.html


Best Wishes,


Buckles

I don't need either, just an on button.

Preset sensitivity, preset ground balance, no discrimination?

My detector is auto GB and I never change the settings, so it's just a matter of turning it on. If it could be locked like that, and all the extra features gone, and weight cut back, I'd do it for sure... maybe with the exception to deal with interference. (sens. and noise cancel)

You have just described the ultimate metal detector. On/off button, sens. and noise cancel, deep as the explorer and as light as a Tesoro.

 

[extractor]

Lol O you guys are too funny.

 

[cavador del oro]

I think we all "bond" with a certain type of detector and who knows why? Years ago I found my thing with Tesoro. I cheated a few times but always went back. I could have most any machine I want but I like the old Silver Sabres or new Silver uMax best.
--Snowy

 

[LuckyLarry]

Well folks, just some thoughts.

TID is for the beginners and those who want things to literally jump right out of the ground for them, or so it sometimes seems..

And as far as Tesoros vs Minelabs...?

I've tried various Tesoros and Minelabs (and others) right here in my front yard with standard-issue coils, and out in the parks, beaches, mountains, and nearly every other place one could imagine, and matched them against each other...

My findings (not opinions) are that the Tejon with it's stock 9x8 coil gets superior air depth AND superior ground depth over the various Minelab multi-frequency units, but they do have a bit of trouble cancelling large iron. But so do some Minelabs, and even more so, especially the Sovereigns. There is no way to know this unless you pit them against each other, side-by-side. And I've done it. I've had as many as 20 detectors in a row testing them against each other.

Yes, the Tejon is a bit noisey with it's super-high gain, but it really does go deep. So deep that it is the only detector that has ever beat the Nauties in the GNRS's. Why haven't any Minelabs beat the Tejon or the Nauties there? Or the White's? Or Garretts? Is it because they don't want to embarrass the other owners?? Hmmm...?

Personally I didn't like my Tejon so I traded it for a Browning 338 A-bolt rifle - and got the best of the deal. I wouldn't buy another one though. 15-16" in air on a copper penny is impressive, but I didn't like the high-gain chatter.

I know that some people are brand-loyal only, but I never have been, never will be. And I basically ignore my TID's.

Ciao,

LL

 

[Iron Patch]

Absolutely.

I dig it all. I usually know what it is before I dig it--and I am usually right. But I have been surprised in the past by a few BIG finds.


Here's a good post I wrote on this same topic a while ago on the forum. I also talk about how the market seems to be "grooming us" for the meter and eliminating the knob:

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,178510.0.html


Best Wishes,


Buckles

I don't need either, just an on button.

Preset sensitivity, preset ground balance, no discrimination?

My detector is auto GB and I never change the settings, so it's just a matter of turning it on. If it could be locked like that, and all the extra features gone, and weight cut back, I'd do it for sure... maybe with the exception to deal with interference. (sens. and noise cancel)

You have just described the ultimate metal detector. On/off button, sens. and noise cancel, deep as the explorer and as light as a Tesoro.

I know! High sens., low disc., gain maxed, and the rest you said and we're ready to roll!

 

[gleaner1]

Can detector technology tell you if a junk-sounding signal is treasure or trash? Is anyone going to rely on a silly screen to decide whether or not to dig? No. Learn the sounds of a machine to become effective. Not the screen. You gotta learn to walk before you can run.

 

[cavador del oro]

One of the worse mistakes I made in detecting was watching the screen. It didn't take long until I was taught a lesson. Now many years later I really can't imagine looking at the ID for any reason. It's one of those things that makes zero sense to me because if you know your detector it changes nothing. (for where I hunt anyway)

This was one reason I changed from the Explorer to the Sovereign GT. I also liked the balance of the GT over the Ex.
--Snowy

 

[Hardy]

Buckleboy and Ironpatch are correct , I bought my 1st machine back in 84 and it is the coinmaster 6000 srs 3. Having graduated as a Archaeologist I thought it would be a great tool . Over the years I came to realise that I was using my hearing and not the
analog to I.D my finds; sure the analog was great to confirm my feel for the object depth and spot on if the object was Iron,
but I didn't let it convince me not to DIG
Theres a place where Dave and I hunt called Bottle cap hill and for a good reason , one can dig 60 or so caps in a 25 yard square
area. Now using a spectrum that I bought , thinking that it would ease my searching having more modern teck in my hands was bad idea. This modern tech misses out on Iron Tips and Awls on the all metal mode , if you rely on the VDI numbers and graph
and target I.D chances are that you just rejected digging up a Hand Cast Medicine Wheel or a Trade Ring or a Trade Brooch that
is masked by a true Bottle Cap that is over it. The New Teck has created alot of Closet Metal Detectors out there and the move
of us old timers that want to switch over to the lighter machines will have to watch where and what product we try out. Older Fisher products and Tosoro is the best bet in my eyes . I will use the 6000 as I can tell the length and depth of objects and its
a great machine , but will never use a whites Cherry picker or digital that's on the market...