Why does no one believe in Long Range locators?

[Charlie P. (NY)]

For the original thread - I can't answer for everyone else but I don't believe in LRLs because I have never seen one used successfully, never seen the results of one (either first hand or second hand that couldn't be else wise explained), and have never heard a convincing description of the physics and other sciences that would make them work. At present I don't believe in magic, ghosts or alien's ever being present on Earth for the same reasons.

When someone takes the wizardry out of it and presents it as a repeatable process that works reliably in the lab and the field, and can show the theory behind it - then I'm your huckleberry.

I've never personally seen a bullet in flight, but I have seen the results, know I can repeat the experiment as required with excellent results and know the theory and science well enough to predict the results downrange.

 

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[aarthrj3811]

The calculator is just there so you can add up all your find's values. It could serve no other purpose. ;-)

Just how do you know this? The skeptics own test proved that it put out a signal.

 

[aarthrj3811]

For the original thread - I can't answer for everyone else but I don't believe in LRLs because I have never seen one used successfully, never seen the results of one (either first hand or second hand that couldn't be else wise explained),

Sorry that you do not have any real information about the devices

When someone takes the wizardry out of it and presents it as a repeatable process that works reliably in the lab and the field, and can show the theory behind it - then I'm your huckleberry.

Are you going to pay for the tests?

I've never personally seen a bullet in flight, but I have seen the results, know I can repeat the experiment as required with excellent results and know the theory and science well enough to predict the results downrange.

I have heard bullets flying over my head. Have you?

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

I have heard bullets flying over my head. Have you?

As a matter of fact, yes. More than one. And had one hit close enough I caught wood splinters. I have also had a slug pass by very close in standing corn. THAT gets your attention as well. But enough about hunting on state land (which I stopped doing).

I don't doubt a calculator puts out a signal - EMI of some variety. But I doubt the signal changes much whether the display shows 00000 or 07734.

Am I going to pay for the tests? Nope. That's what Congress and Graduate Students are for. Funding and performing loopy research of dubious value.

 

[aarthrj3811]

Am I going to pay for the tests? Nope. That's what Congress and Graduate Students are for. Funding and performing loopy research of dubious value.

So you are saying that we the people should pay because of all your misinformation

 

[G.I.B.]

07734.

hello- haven't seen that one in a while, too phunny.

So, how about it.

Let's LRL up that Forrest Fenn Treasure. I'm ready to go~

 

[Pick_axe]

As a matter of fact, yes. More than one. And had one hit close enough I caught wood splinters. I have also had a slug pass by very close in standing corn. THAT gets your attention as well. But enough about hunting on state land (which I stopped doing).

I don't doubt a calculator puts out a signal - EMI of some variety. But I doubt the signal changes much whether the display shows 00000 or 07734.

Am I going to pay for the tests? Nope. That's what Congress and Graduate Students are for. Funding and performing loopy research of dubious value.

Sadly, Charlie, we DO pay for that kind of loopy research (indirectly) with our taxes.
Shrimp on a treadmill anyone?

 

[aarthrj3811]

I have put experiments using cell phones, cb radios and calculators on this board many times. If you guys would simply spend a few minutes doing them you would know the truth

 

[aarthrj3811]

Let's LRL up that Forrest Fenn Treasure. I'm ready to go~

I may be wrong but I don’t think the treasures is within 200 miles. I don’t like to waste my treasure hunting dollars without a good starting point

 

[Pick_axe]

I may be wrong but I don’t think the treasures is within 200 miles. I don’t like to waste my treasure hunting dollars without a good starting point

With a range of 200 miles that device could cover an area of over 125,663 square miles from one location. A little gas money sounds more like an investment with that capability.

 

[G.I.B.]

I may be wrong but I don’t think the treasures is within 200 miles. I don’t like to waste my treasure hunting dollars without a good starting point

The starting point is Santa Fe NM. You will be looking North/Northwest along the mountain range.

And it doesn't have to by you aarthrj, aren't there some LRL guys in Colorado/Wyoming?

Come on you guys, there's a known million dollars plus out there. Here's the search area, and covering it in 200 mile increments should prove easy.

Let's go get this!

 

[aarthrj3811]

With a range of 200 miles that device could cover an area of over 125,663 square miles from one location. A little gas money sounds more like an investment with that capability.

The longest LRL that I have ever heard of could only search 64 square miles. Just more misinformation. I don't use that one any because 8 miles is to far to walk in the Sierra Nevadas ..Art

 

[flgliderpilot]

the thread title is," why does no one believe in them.?"

Here are a couple videos, that prove how well they work even at point blank range.

https://youtu.be/RoKbjsC5oy8

i especially like this one, is the calculator glued to the stick?

https://youtu.be/XnPv_CyB5Dc

HAH! look how he's twisting his wrist all over the place to make it move. That is some funny stuff right there.


BTW the further away they are, the more accurate it is... "There is metal that way....oh but it's too far to walk"

 

[G.I.B.]

The longest LRL that I have ever heard of could only search 64 square miles. Just more misinformation. I don't use that one any because 8 miles is to far to walk in the Sierra Nevadas ..Art

I can get us within 5 miles of it. More likely 2 miles.

There are so many crevices and small caverns that it is impracticable to try to search them one by one and turning over every rock in every stream.

But! Pinpointing it with the LRL (I don't know how to use the technology) would put us right on it.

I'd be more than happy to turn over 50 rocks in the river for a million +.

 

[aarthrj3811]

HAH! look how he's twisting his wrist all over the place to make it move. That is some funny stuff right there.

No. It works on its own

BTW the further away they are, the more accurate it is

That is plain misinformation
... "There is metal that way....oh but it's too far to walk"

Yes. Eight miles is to far to chase a few flakes of gold

 

[aarthrj3811]

I can get us within 5 miles of it. More likely 2 miles

I can get you to where your left heel is on it

There are so many crevices and small caverns that it is impracticable to try to search them one by one and turning over every rock in every stream.

Yes there are places like that

But! Pinpointing it with the LRL (I don't know how to use the technology) would put us right on it.

Yes they will

I'd be more than happy to turn over 50 rocks in the river for a million +.

I have dug spots with 50 rocks but no million + yet

 

[flgliderpilot]

I tested one while directly over a gold coin i buried and a silver coin i buried and the probes kept crossing is it a special ability to understand these things or is everyone that hates these types of long range locators just filled with disbelief because they don't have one? i do not mean to be disrespectful towards anyone its just that when i have had some decent positive results on some crummy gold and silver i directly walked over while being buried just at one foot and the probes cross why do skeptics continue to be skeptics to me i feel like there telling me I'm insane. I don't like being called a fool because i understand a lot and have a lot of logic and common sense. but seriously you cant expect to find something a kilometer away but fine can you expect at least and believe you will detect something ten feet away i mean come on is there anyone out there that understands that if directly above gold or silver while in setting on either that when the probes cross that means jackpot why is this so hard for people to except? i feel like preaching this stuff is like preaching fire cooks and burns food back thousands of years ago. how does no one get this stuff. peace to all

Because they only work when the operator KNOWS where the target is. It's that simple really.

 

[Pick_axe]

challenge: 25 double-blind tests with 25 different operators under controlled conditions. Observers to be drawn from an independent electronics lab. All recorded on video. No LRL manufacturers allowed within "walking distance" of the test area.
LOL

 

[boogeyman]

No woof. He is not dowsing. He is following a man made signal...Art

True. Instead, why not make yourself a set of rods or pendulum, and take what it would cost for a long range locator and apply that towards a quality metal detector? You'd have the best of both worlds and probably have some $$ left over to boot! Learn both and your finds should increase.

 

[aarthrj3811]

True. Instead, why not make yourself a set of rods or pendulum, and take what it would cost for a long range locator and apply that towards a quality metal detector? You'd have the best of both worlds and probably have some $$ left over to boot! Learn both and your finds should increase.

That’s a very good idea. But it would go against every thing that they think ...Art