Well Kace, it appears we are discussing nature versus nurture. Do you think there may be some confusion here among we posters? I think a child will mimic what the child sees.
A male child could easily be raised to behave as a stereotypical girl-as defined say by a 1950's middle class American family- and wear cute dresses, play with Barbies, and pretend to be a mommy to a baby doll. Not to say your fellow was being raised as a girl.
I wonder if he was teased. Although I have to say once children acquire empathy it is really surprising how accepting they often are of friends who are kind of off the beaten path. Not always it is true.
Remember when some girls were called tomboys?
Because they behaved in ways we associated with boys.
Now that I think of it, Hollywood is still responsible for much of the perpetuation of stereotypes in regard to men and women.
The discussion is getting a bit off course I suppose. I think it would be a interesting topic for a thread but how to frame it? This has taken off with a life of its own as these things do
We are shaped by our families, our community around us and its culture,our friends and classmates who are generally part of the same community. Of course now we have the internet which plays a role in a child's shaping.
Just curious-were you ever called a tomboy?
I think it would be fascinating to take a twenty year old girl (or boy) who was born and bred in Manhattan, and exchange her with a counterpart from a genuine small town in rural Arkansas. Sort of a foreign exchange student deal. Film the whole mess.
HBP...I had to laugh about your suggestion of transplanting people of vastly different cultures. That would be interesting! Like the Simple Life was only without the celebrity aspect. lol!
My guy friend that I mentioned is what you would consider a typical country boy man's man. He's amateur raced MX his whole life, builds and races cars for dirt track, hunts, fishes, plays the fiddle, banjo, steel and acoustic guitar in a country music band and is a great CM singer. He can fix anything and rebuild any motor you put in front of him. Just a normal manly man and he was never, ever picked on. He's very talented in many things. He can afford to do all he does because a long time ago his mother asked him to help her make some women's dresses. He wasn't gonna keep doing that so he went into making boat covers first. Not that there's not some amazing male designers, like Ralph Lauren who's a manly man.
No, I was never called a tomboy...I hate saying this... I don't know how else to word it, but Ive never looked the way that most folks think a tomboy would. I'm a woman, and if I don't make my personal life known, say in business, no one would ever know some of the things I like or do that is typically considered for men. It depends on the type of man I come in contact with through business what I share. Of course my circle of friends know as well as family.
I just happened to be raised equally by a mother, father and grandparents who all took their interests and skills and exposed and instilled them in me. I like vintage cars and motorcycles, my parents Both collected vintage cars and Both belonged to vintage car clubs. My father liked the dirt bikes and scramblers...Mom thought they were dangerous but They Both got me my first mini bike when I was 7... I still have vintage bikes and cars. Many women collect and show vintage cars.
My folks entertained a lot due to business and also having a large extended family they wanted around and She taught me how to do that from planning, decorating, cooking, hosting, and knowing what the guests liked. She's a wonderful hostess. They also had what you would consider a typical 1950's husband and wife relationship and each had their stereotypical roles. My mother has never mowed a yard, I'm sure she could of, but my father would of considered that a bad reflection on him.
I was also raised both Catholic And Protestant. When I was old enough for confirmation I chose which faith I would be confirmed in at their encouraging. Some of my Protestant family are Mason's... when I was younger I was in Rainbow Girls as well as Brownies and Girl Scouts, my Mother was a leader. I got to choose whether to go on to OES.
I know this must all sound strange to you and others, but I just wasn't raised on a one way street and I'm thankful for that. It's made me much more understanding of men and women and I am able to be in and accepted in both worlds. Someone said earlier about feminism that most urban women hate men...I don't know any woman that hates men...I know women who hate A man...I also know men who hate A woman.
Now today I got a New Coach Purse...To match my Tony Lama's...I have many diverse interests and it's because of my family...No one ever pushed me into anything...except business, but in all fairness I probably could of said no without too much static.
I don't have to ask anyone for money to buy what I want or need so it does take a very secure man to be in my life. I chose to have an equal relationship, I don't boss nor will I be bossed. It's Equal. We've actually fished several tournaments Against each other and it's all good. He's Not going to Let me win and I'm Not going to Let him win no matter what we do, even in golf, casting competitions, PlayStation or trap or whatever. We take vacations together, sometimes alone, sometimes with other couples and also he will go on guys trips and I'll go on girls trips because there's some places one or the other of us doesn't care about going to.
I hate saying this too, but since we are all being honest here...until this thread I never brought up that I am a woman because I didn't want to be treated differently on a predominately male forum. I didn't hide it, but I never mentioned it.
Isn't that sad?? I hope the kids following us will never feel that way, male or female.
I hope I answered some of your questions.
What part of SWMO are you close to?
Kace
Better than I could do! An older guy didn't want to see me around his property but would stop everything to talk to her and she would be able to sweet talk them into letting us hunt! They do have the advantage in some ways there and we have used that!!!
