Worth scrapping?

[rickertmork]

I’m assuming the scrap world be worth more than the actual antique value, is there any silver in the blade? I have 6 of them , the blade and handle are very magnetic, must have some amount of silver 16 penny weights at the time. It says rogers bros 1847 16dwt . Or maybe I’ll use it for buttering toast like it’s intended, either that or the plyers what you think?

 

[DizzyDigger]

The 1847 Rogers is quality silverplate, and what you have is the "Old Colony"
pattern, which was first produced in 1911.

Here's a bit of history about the 1847 Rogers Collection (from the web)

"Rogers is a recurrent name in American makers of coin, sterling and silverplate ware.There is a great confusion about the firms bearing this name. The number of companies using the Rogers name is countless. The men managing the various "Rogers" companies sometimes were linked by family relationships but often this was not the case.Lots of companies with this name were created, merged, separated in an endless succession of intertwined relationships.In 1862 Meriden Britannia Company bought the hollowware division, tools and dies of Rogers Brothers Mfg Co (incorporating Rogers, Smith & Co).The production of the '1847 Rogers Bros' line continued under the direction of William Rogers and in 1865 the plating shop was transferred from New Haven to Meriden and merged with Meriden Britannia Co in 1866.In 1898 Meriden Britannia Co and various other independent New England silversmiths joined themselves together to form the International Silver Co that became the world's largest manufacturer of silverware. Rogers 1847 became a trade mark of the new firm."

 

[ConceptualizedNetherlandr]

The 1847 Rogers is quality silverplate, and what you have is the "Old Colony"
pattern, which was first produced in 1911.

Here's a bit of history about the 1847 Rogers Collection (from the web)

"Rogers is a recurrent name in American makers of coin, sterling and silverplate ware.There is a great confusion about the firms bearing this name. The number of companies using the Rogers name is countless. The men managing the various "Rogers" companies sometimes were linked by family relationships but often this was not the case.Lots of companies with this name were created, merged, separated in an endless succession of intertwined relationships.In 1862 Meriden Britannia Company bought the hollowware division, tools and dies of Rogers Brothers Mfg Co (incorporating Rogers, Smith & Co).The production of the '1847 Rogers Bros' line continued under the direction of William Rogers and in 1865 the plating shop was transferred from New Haven to Meriden and merged with Meriden Britannia Co in 1866.In 1898 Meriden Britannia Co and various other independent New England silversmiths joined themselves together to form the International Silver Co that became the world's largest manufacturer of silverware. Rogers 1847 became a trade mark of the new firm."

Not sure on your call. There is a ton of different Rodgers out there.

The 16 DWT would seem to imply not typical A1 type plate.

I think this warrants more investigation.

 

[Red-Coat]

I’m assuming the scrap world be worth more than the actual antique value, is there any silver in the blade? I have 6 of them , the blade and handle are very magnetic, must have some amount of silver 16 penny weights at the time. It says rogers bros 1847 16dwt . Or maybe I’ll use it for buttering toast like it’s intended, either that or the plyers what you think?

Not sure on your call. There is a ton of different Rodgers out there.

The 16 DWT would seem to imply not typical A1 type plate.

I think this warrants more investigation.

‘16dwt’ does indeed mean 16 pennyweights, a pennyweight being 1.555 grams. So that’s 24.88 grams of silver. However, that figure relates to the amount of silver used in the electroplating bath per batch of items, which is usually a dozen. So, each item would only have around 2 grams of silver on it.

 

[DizzyDigger]

‘16dwt’ does indeed mean 16 pennyweights, a pennyweight being 1.555 grams. So that’s 24.88 grams of silver. However, that figure relates to the amount of silver used in the electroplating bath per batch of items, which is usually a dozen. So, each item would only have around 2 grams of silver on it.

I've got a full set (in the wood box) of 1847 Rogers sitting in my garage. Knowing there's
roughly 2 gr. of silver per utensil, I have to wonder if there is a way to [profitably] remove
silver for resale.

 

[opalboy]

I think this is a great basic question.
At what point does the scrap value overtake the antique value?
Of course assuming the scrap buyers will resume buying at a reasonable price!

 

[Red-Coat]

I've got a full set (in the wood box) of 1847 Rogers sitting in my garage. Knowing there's
roughly 2 gr. of silver per utensil, I have to wonder if there is a way to [profitably] remove
silver for resale.

Generally, there is no easy way for silver to be profitably recovered from electroplate on a small scale. A professional scrap dealer could do it, but relying on processing in very large quantities for economy of scale. A dealer might therefore be interested in acquiring items for recovery, but whether they would pay more than a set might be worth as a ‘useable’ set is questionable. That's also going to be dependent on the age and desirability of the flatware pattern.

Just a few words of caution. ‘Rogers 1847’ was just a brand and it was acquired by the International Silver company in 1898, who continued to use the branding through to the 1970s. Consequently, not all ‘Rogers 1847’ was produced at ‘16dwt’ which is a fairly heavy plating. The branding may also be accompanied by other terms such as ‘XS Triple’, ‘XII’ and also without any quality indication, representing other and lower amounts of silver.