WWII nazi somthing

[harpp]

"JUDENFREI MIT ZYKLON B" i think translates to "free of jews with zyklon b" (hydracyanidic acid)...

how sad...

RZM stands for national materials control?

the "A" for auwshwitz?

anyway i found this about 8" down at a park here in los gatos ca... very strange

 

[LandStar]

Jew Free with Gas?

Is that what it says

 

[mickk]

You have found a very interesting item that your local holocaust museum would want.

It basically says, like a fair badge, but very sickening considering the background.

"Jew free with Zyklon B". Zyklon B was the gas used to kill the Jews.

Some Nazis idea of a fun rhyme. I guess it was a badge, it wouldnt have been on the gas cannisters. The 39/43 Id say is a date of service, the rest their regiment or similar and the A might be a reference to Auschwitz, the rest a meaning known to the wearers. Is it curved, is the rhyme on the concave side?

Zyklon B, was used by the germans from 1924. It was used to treat materials for "disease and disinfection" control early on pre ww2, but it was used in gas chambers at Auschwitz.

As I said, send it to the Holocaust museum, they will tell you all about it.

 

[NHBandit]

I agree with the opinion that it's hand made and probably by some 60s biker type. Genuine Nazi stuff would never be that crudely made.

 

[nutCase*]

Definitely handmade, just look at the swastika and it doesnt even rhyme in german.

 

[curbdiggercarl57]

I agree with the opinion that it's hand made and probably by some 60s biker type. Genuine Nazi stuff would never be that crudely made.

The Germans never advertised the usage of Zyklon B, and didn't start using it until after the Wannsee conference, 1942. Personally think it's some sort of homemade sick joke. A lot of bikers had a fondness for German and Nazi medals, decorations, etc., mainly for the appearance and shock value, but from what I've heard, weren't always that Anti-Semitic. Has, to me at least, more of a KKK, or other racial hating group quality to me.
Carl

 

[Swingit]

Crazy

 

[Rooter]

It's an interesting and cool find but I notice that the Swastika is also not oriented correctly in relationship the the lettering. Shouldn't its' orientation be 45 degrees more clockwise?

 

[daroofa]

The RZM was the Reichszeugmeisterei, basically the quartermaster corp for the Nazi party. They were responsible for procuring uniforms and other gear used by them. Anything produced for them would have the RZM trademark along with other coded information which would give the manufacturer, the date of manufacture, etc. The 39/43 is the format (xx/xx) they used to identify item/manufacturer. While it is crude looking, I wouldn't dismiss it as a biker/KKK item just yet. Given that there were 15000 factories and 1500 tradesman making items for the Nazis, it is entirely possible that they wouldn't all be perfect. Another thought is that it is an attempt at faking a WWII item and giving it as much shock value as possible. I would find a website dedicated to German WWII memorabilia and post the pics there. Whatever it turns out to be, it is certainly interesting and a great find.

 

[mickk]

It rhymes in german as well as english, im not an idiot.

 

[Hooty]

I think it is a Moron's sick fantasy as Frei is pronounced in German as "Fry". By the way the terminology of me using "Fry" is not intended to be crude or disrespectful.