You guys judge - 4 relatively modern pennies in a humble park or a permission that yielded but nails & then owner shooes us off?

[metalman2024]

What’s better? The normal modern park that yields the usual relatively modern coin, or the permission that yields almost nothing, it started well though, a nice renter gave me & a buddy permission but lately this “owner” kicks us off and not too diplomatically. We found nails and the best thing was a game token at that permission. In the photos the 4 coins are ‘74 & ‘79 US pennies and an ‘85 & ‘89 Cad that were found quickly and conveniently in a very “uninteresting”but quite accessible park ———the nails & screws were also found today at a “permission” a word that carries a lot of weight, but was mainly false hope? I find permissions are over-rated after this incident. What does the metal detecting forum, you guys, think?

 

[ToddsPoint]

The owner has every right to trespass you. However, I think getting permission from the renter has you covered.👍🏻 I’ve dealt with the same thing. I hunt long gone houses in ag fields. Many farms have absentee landowners. I received permission from the person that farms the ground, only to have it rescinded when the owner found out. Not much you can do except go down the road and knock on the next door.🤷🏼

 

[Oldrvrrat57]

I was given permission to hunt a homestead by a grandson of the property owner, they were on vacation but I decided not to go! Thought it would be best to talk to them in person.

 

[Trezurehunter]

I almost exclusively search yards. I have had an incident or two over the years but one just happened a month ago. I was given permission from the homeowner. He had forgotten to tell his girlfriend and when she came out, she asked if I had talked to "Gino" about looking around. I replied yes I did, and the next thing I know, she's on the phone with Gino's dad. The dad tells her to tell me it would be best if I left. I received a text apology from homeowner Gino that night, stating he forgot to tell his girlfriend. I said that was ok, and we could reschedule. I haven't heard anything back, and don't expect to. Don't know why she thought it would be good to call the homeowners dad, but she did. No big deal, as there are thousands of places in my area to search.

 

[Prairie Prowler]

I once recieved a permission from a work friend to search a yard of house they rented
Began my searching around an old tree found a gold ladies band..a silver turquoise ring..and another silver ring..did tell my friend I found a couple rings..some how property owner was notified I immediately became the bad guy for being on the property & found out owners daughter lost the rings while sunning one day..The owner & his daughter were a couple of the rudest I've ever encountered in my detecting career..demanding I return the rings. I met her returning her 3 rings & didn't even get a "thanks"
This really soured my attitude towards property owners for awhile and I always get all the facts when asking permission..

 

[Oldrvrrat57]

I once recieved a permission from a work friend to search a yard of house they rented
Began my searching around an old tree found a gold ladies band..a silver turquoise ring..and another silver ring..did tell my friend I found a couple rings..some how property owner was notified I immediately became the bad guy for being on the property & found out owners daughter lost the rings while sunning one day..The owner & his daughter were a couple of the rudest I've ever encountered in my detecting career..demanding I return the rings. I met her returning her 3 rings & didn't even get a "thanks"
This really soured my attitude towards property owners for awhile and I always get all the facts when asking permission..

Did you have them identify them? Probably didn't even belong to her!!!

 

[metalman2024]

The owner has every right to trespass you. However, I think getting permission from the renter has you covered.👍🏻 I’ve dealt with the same thing. I hunt long gone houses in ag fields. Many farms have absentee landowners. I received permission from the person that farms the ground, only to have it rescinded when the owner found out. Not much you can do except go down the road and knock on the

The owner has every right to trespass you. However, I think getting permission from the renter has you covered.👍🏻 I’ve dealt with the same thing. I hunt long gone houses in ag fields. Many farms have absentee landowners. I received permission from the person that farms the ground, only to have it rescinded when the owner found out. Not much you can do except go down the road and knock on the next door.🤷🏼

The renter was a great & +ve person, only to be trumped by a
rude & -ve rep of the owner. What also gets severed by such altercations is the camaraderies that are sown with the renter. I thought what if the renter themselves was a detectorist, would the owner shoo them off too?

 

[metalman2024]

Did you have them identify them? Probably didn't even belong to her!!!

It didn’t

 

[Gold:Au]

The renter would have usage rights to the property, but not ownership rights to whatever is found there.
The owner would be the only one that could give you that permission, but would have to conform to whatever local laws there are around granting access to a rented property.

 

[metalman2024]

I once recieved a permission from a work friend to search a yard of house they rented
Began my searching around an old tree found a gold ladies band..a silver turquoise ring..and another silver ring..did tell my friend I found a couple rings..some how property owner was notified I immediately became the bad guy for being on the property & found out owners daughter lost the rings while sunning one day..The owner & his daughter were a couple of the rudest I've ever encountered in my detecting career..demanding I return the rings. I met her returning her 3 rings & didn't even get a "thanks"
This really soured my attitude towards property owners for awhile and I always get all the facts when asking permission..

I felt the same. I lost all trust yesterday. What I’m trying to say is that the field around the promising 19th century house was fished out long ago except for the square nails in the photos. I learned something though, one should keep a low profile even though one has a permission.

I once recieved a permission from a work friend to search a yard of house they rented
Began my searching around an old tree found a gold ladies band..a silver turquoise ring..and another silver ring..did tell my friend I found a couple rings..some how property owner was notified I immediately became the bad guy for being on the property & found out owners daughter lost the rings while sunning one day..The owner & his daughter were a couple of the rudest I've ever encountered in my detecting career..demanding I return the rings. I met her returning her 3 rings & didn't even get a "thanks"
This really soured my attitude towards property owners for awhile and I always get all the facts when asking permission..

 

[metalman2024]

The renter would have usage rights to the property, but not ownership rights to whatever is found there.
The owner would be the only one that could give you that permission, but would have to conform to whatever local laws there are around granting access to a rented property.

I wish I’d known the above two days ago.

 

[metalman2024]

Did you have them identify them? Probably didn't even belong to her!!!

You’re absolutely right, did not belong to her. Many liars out there. And they are discriminatory as to who gets to detect and who doesn’t.

 

[metalman2024]

I once recieved a permission from a work friend to search a yard of house they rented
Began my searching around an old tree found a gold ladies band..a silver turquoise ring..and another silver ring..did tell my friend I found a couple rings..some how property owner was notified I immediately became the bad guy for being on the property & found out owners daughter lost the rings while sunning one day..The owner & his daughter were a couple of the rudest I've ever encountered in my detecting career..demanding I return the rings. I met her returning her 3 rings & didn't even get a "thanks"
This really soured my attitude towards property owners for awhile and I always get all the facts when asking permission..

Quite rude and back biting people, good riddance you never had to deal with them again.

 

[Gare]

I always have the claimers identify what they lost before I let them see items. I do NOT allow pictures of the items to be taken either Neither before or after

 

[Prairie Prowler]

I just took my losses & moved on..arrrggghh.

 

[pepperj]

I have over 20K of acreage I can detect anytime the crops are off. Private permissions are the best once they've been established.
I don't do farm yards or around their houses. Just fields.
If the farmer is working land that he leases, then it's getting permission from the landowner.
Once that has been ok'd, then it's OK to hunt.

There's a few permissions that they have tenent houses, and the request not to disturb the folks in the home.

Yes I have had the OK 👍 and then a inlaw/relative shows up, and things change.
I apologize for any problems that I may have caused, thank them, and move on.

I'm grateful for the dirt that I have to play on.

 

[metalman2024]

I have over 20K of acreage I can detect anytime the crops are off. Private permissions are the best once they've been established.
I don't do farm yards or around their houses. Just fields.
If the farmer is working land that he leases, then it's getting permission from the landowner.
Once that has been ok'd, then it's OK to hunt.

There's a few permissions that they have tenent houses, and the request not to disturb the folks in the home.

Yes I have had the OK 👍 and then a inlaw/relative shows up, and things change.
I apologize for any problems that I may have caused, thank them, and move on.

I'm grateful for the dirt that I have to play on.

The general trend I see from all your comments above is to move on, put it behind, and find greener pastures. One has to prepare to lose some if one is to win.

 

[pepperj]

The general trend I see from all your comments above is to move on, put it behind, and find greener pastures. One has to prepare to lose some if one is to win.

Yes that's about it, though the wins certainly outweigh the move ons.
It's always read the permissions granted go ahead. If they're a "Go ahead anytime, you're welcome-fill your boots" Those need no revisit to ask again.
The one's that are on the edge of granting the permission it's always good to ask again, on another visit just to establish the go ahead.
I sometimes do a door knock again just to ask, or say what I had found on a previous visit if a length of time has passed.
There's a few that just say hear's my phone number Jim, let me know when you want to go for a hunt.

 

[Ytcoinshooter]

When obtaining permission I ALWAYS ask if I should be on the lookout for any items that were lost on the property. That has helped me to gain permissions avoid disputes and score points with the property owners because I have been able to return some very sentimental items of jewelry. If I’m Detecting more than one property in the same neighborhood, I’ve been able to return an item it gives me a good reference to name drop on a neighbor. It doesn’t matter whether it is a a yard or an agricultural field. I always ask this question.
I’ve been doing this since 1986. I haven’t been on the forms much but reading this thread I had to put my 2¢ in.

 

[metalman2024]

When obtaining permission I ALWAYS ask if I should be on the lookout for any items that were lost on the property. That has helped me to gain permissions avoid disputes and score points with the property owners because I have been able to return some very sentimental items of jewelry. If I’m Detecting more than one property in the same neighborhood, I’ve been able to return an item it gives me a good reference to name drop on a neighbor. It doesn’t matter whether it is a a yard or an agricultural field. I always ask this question.
I’ve been doing this since 1986. I haven’t been on the forms much but reading this thread I had to put my 2¢ in.

Thank you for sharing your “2 cents “, makes sense to establish trust with the permission giver and serving the community as well.