πŸ₯‡ BANNER fantastic 1640 8 reale cob found Im massachusetts.

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fantastic 1640 8 reale cob found I'm massachusetts.

Did some door knocking today first house first permission was told have at it after a couple hours and an indian, a barber dime ,and a merc. I started swinging near where they had the gas line marked that seemed like it eas dug at an earlier time, about 4 to 5 feet from the line i got a booming hit at about 4 inches and this was it .Not sure if it's real or not but got my heart pumping about the size of a half dollar kinda heavy and why would there have been a hole in it then filled
 

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Banner find all day long!
 

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That's a awesome find man. Biggest cob I've seen posted. Id hunt that place till there wasn't even iron present

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Congratulations! It's one thing to find a late 1700s 8 reale, but when you pull a 1640 8 reale cob, that's a whole other caliber of find! Well done. Off to vote banner now!
 

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That cob is an incredibly ridiculous amazing gorgeous find!!!! I'm dying to get into more 1600s silver and that big fat 8R cob is something I would go crazy if I found. That's a damn early coin as well. I found a 1664 1R cob but this coin is so far and away cooler than that. The plug makes it something even more unique and cool. BANNER my friend. Enjoy this one. Most will never get to experience it
 

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So sick!!! Congrats!!! Hit a 1721 2 Reale in western mass in November. Still haven't gotten a cob though. But they're here, I've seen them dug. But never an 8. That things massive dude!!! Lol. Thanks for sharing. And no question, banner.
 

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Beautiful find- in my home state! Hope there are more out there! Congrats.
 

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Is circa 1640 now your oldest coin?

A cob is still on my list & may remain there all my detecting career.

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Sorry missed it. Yes it is my oldest
 

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I find myself coming back to look at your cob repeatedly. Incredible. I not publicly mentioning when I do or don't vote for certain finds, but ill give you a hint: :headbang:
 

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However, there is an interior plug that indicates its regulation and use in the colonial US in the late 1600s, something that I've only ever seen on cobs from the Feversham shipwreck of 1711 coming from New York City. These

Can anyone share links or sources documenting the interior plugging (presumably to verify the core isn't base metal) in the colonies? Verifying this would make the coin many times more interesting and rare and definitely earn some banner votes. Congrats on the awesome find!
 

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The coin was authenticated by Dan Sedwick he is an authority on cob, colonial, and ancient coins.. he is also a dealer and auctioneer
 

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I just read that the cobs were plugged to bring them up to proper weight in Massachusetts in the 1682-1705 timeframe, which seems to closely follow the closing of the famous Hull and Sanderson mint. If there are older references to this practice unrelated to the Feversham wreck I'd love to see more.
 

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See what I can find out
 

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Even though it isn't a handful of pine tree shillings it seems to have rubbed shoulders with them, and may almost be considered Massachusetts coinage in its own right (insofar as countermarked coins are related to the authority doing the stamping). That crude plug makes the coin many times more interesting than if it were struck perfectly and barely circulated, truly a wonderful and historically rich coin.
 

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This is a response from the guy Silver Tree Chaser told me about..... Thanks for showing me! The coin itself is pretty common and not very nice, actually, a Mexican 8 reales of Philip IV, ca. 1640. However, there is an interior plug that indicates its regulation and use in the colonial US in the late 1600s, something that I've only ever seen on cobs from the Feversham shipwreck of 1711 coming from New York City. These

Well since the "expert" is wrong on one account, the Feversham was not coming from New York, it was going to New York, and that is an easy fact to find. I'd like to see just one other coin that that is "plugged" remotely like yours.

PS. My best digging buddy ZDD (Zodiak Diver Dave) has dove on the Feversham.
Just because someone works for an expensive auction house don't necessarily make them an expert, and that is, BTW, precisely the reason I don't believe in coin grading companies.
 

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