holy celts!

[birdpointgriswold]

My 1st celts! On my lunch break! Whooo hooo!










Johnathan Griswold

 

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[NC field hunter]

My 1st celts! On my lunch break! Whooo hooo!
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Johnathan Griswold

That is a nice Celt. Makes for a good rest of the day at work!

 

[tomclark]

That is a preform, BPG! muhaha Wah, I found nothing at lunch!

 

[birdpointgriswold]

That is a preform, BPG! muhaha Wah, I found nothing at lunch!

You really think preform?? Not to disagree but what made me think no preform was the blade its really nice not like the preforms I usually find

Johnathan Griswold

 

[birdpointgriswold]

Just for you tom!

Johnathan Griswold

 

[NC field hunter]

You really think preform?? Not to disagree but what made me think no preform was the blade its really nice not like the preforms I usually find

Johnathan Griswold

I'm with you Jonathon. It may be a large blade, but I don't think preform.

 

[tomclark]

I am not a knapper but that size is perfect for a good sized point or knife. Looks like he gave up because of the stack(s) and the way it was going (not his way).
OK, did you find it on a worksite/chippin site with lots of chips around? I have found many, many of them, unfinished at different "stages" of reduction.
I believe a celt should have a function, either an axe, hoe or preform pendant and not just a similar shape ... Preforms are longer, wider and thicker than the finished product. 1st pic, right side, middle, looks like he drove off too much with that flake and it ends with a stack bump, that alone could cause it to be discarded or put down for use later. It would work great to scrape roots and bark.


I don't call this a celt, it's fat on the "bit" end.

 

[birdpointgriswold]

I am not a knapper but that size is perfect for a good sized point or knife. Looks like he gave up because of the stack(s) and the way it was going (not his way).
OK, did you find it on a worksite/chippin site with lots of chips around? I have found many, many of them, unfinished at different "stages" of reduction.
I believe a celt should have a function, either an axe, hoe or preform pendant and not just a similar shape ... Preforms are longer, wider and thicker than the finished product. 1st pic, right side, middle, looks like he drove off too much with that flake and it ends with a stack bump, that alone could cause it to be discarded or put down for use later. It would work great to scrape roots and bark.

I don't call this a celt, it's fat on the "bit" end.

Yes I found in one of my honey holes....never found a piece that size at that site. I've pulled over 50 points out of that spot in the last 4 months along with really nice scrapers and hammer stones

Johnathan Griswold

 

[NC field hunter]

Yes I found in one of my honey holes....never found a piece that size at that site. I've pulled over 50 points out of that spot in the last 4 months along with really nice scrapers and hammer stones

Johnathan Griswold

Without handing out too much info. Is the spot one that gets plowed? I'll have to look at the pics again, but I know some of the pieces I find have larger flakes reduced from harder rougher stones. Plows can take those chunks also, but patina is normally off if done by plow.

 

[NC field hunter]

I found these over the weekend. The first is a softer easer stone to work with. I think it is a flaked Celt bit.



In my hand on the far left is a piece like you found.( I think) harder stone, larger flakes. I don't have a better pic right now .



These have plow damage.

 

[birdpointgriswold]

Found these at the same spot after work... what you guys think?










Johnathan Griswold

 

[NC field hunter]

Found these at the same spot after work... what you guys think?
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Johnathan Griswold

That last piece, though I can't tell you what it is, is something! I have quite a few of them, all found on the same site. Glad you posted it. People have told me time and time again, "toss that thing" . I'm glad to see that if mother nature made these pieces, she mass produced them. The spotted piece is uniface, correct? It's a scraper of sorts, I have one or two of those too. I think NC is unique, and unless one spends a lot of time here, they will bypass a lot of stuff. I'm sure you have noticed "rocks" of certain styles keep showing up, to the point of they must be something. The Tator Rock, I can't tell by pic. Many of them are used. If it is kidney shaped, it is for sure!

 

[Tnmountains]

First 2 rocks. The last one may have have been knocked down for the flakes for a quick tool. They would make something in a flasf to fit a job. It looks reduced and chunked. My guess is they used what you do not have of it.

 

[Tnmountains]

I found these over the weekend. The first is a softer easer stone to work with. I think it is a flaked Celt bit.

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In my hand on the far left is a piece like you found.( I think) harder stone, larger flakes. I don't have a better pic right now .

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These have plow damage.

Just because they reduced an edge on it does not make it a celt. Just saying.

 

[birdpointgriswold]

That last piece, though I can't tell you what it is, is something! I have quite a few of them, all found on the same site. Glad you posted it. People have told me time and time again, "toss that thing" . I'm glad to see that if mother nature made these pieces, she mass produced them. The spotted piece is uniface, correct? It's a scraper of sorts, I have one or two of those too. I think NC is unique, and unless one spends a lot of time here, they will bypass a lot of stuff. I'm sure you have noticed "rocks" of certain styles keep showing up, to the point of they must be something. The Tator Rock, I can't tell by pic. Many of them are used. If it is kidney shaped, it is for sure!

I know what you mean about NC being different, I notice some of my stuff isn't defined like a lot of other states. But like you said the same thing keeps showing up again and again identical shapes and sizes. A lot of people (friends family) when I show them my finds, they are like ahh that's just a rock! I'm like no way I have 20 just like it from all over this county. but anyways yeah that 1st last picture it is worn on those top edges. I have never found a rounded stone like that in that particular spot so I feel its out of place, and has been used. Oh yeah the spotted creature is def a scraper, love that material too!

Johnathan Griswold

 

[NC field hunter]

You sound spot on to me. I have too many like the ones you put up also. You don't know how glad I was to see you post those two items. It reassured what I thought.