Let George do it ... George Zimmerman, that is

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so what do you think TH? the theoretical question I asked about your daughter that is? Have you trained her to stop and give any and all information to someone following her?

That's the crux of the entire thing.

Davest, sometimes I wonder about your comments. You mean you never have anyone walking behind you? You mean if they are behind you for several blocks you automatically turn around and punch them in the face. If you are that scared, you might be better off going into flight mode. Frank...

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I have to agree with Frankn here :tongue3:
If someone followed me I'd probably never know it.
I never think about that happening, no matter where I am.

I do get P.O.'d by the Senior Citizens at christmas in Wall Mart when they see me check out,
Walk towards them, & they ask me for my receipt, Glance quick, & say have a nice day !
or Merry Christmas ! I do get smart assed with them & say I was till you accused me of Stealing :icon_scratch:

So if some wanna Be cop were to stop me and ask for ID, I May call a real Cop on him
 

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eggzachery TH, I've been searching for the "proof" as you call it about ZimmerMan rescuing that family but all I get is blank space, and empty facebook pages.

Question: If your daughter is walking home and some guy starts to follow her and she runs away only to be followed again by the same guy. If she kicks him in the knee, scratches his face or trips him is it ok for him to shoot her in self defense?

Or does some other law of the jungle apply?

Dave, I have to wonder about you.

Let's see if I can make it simple......

It is NOT against the law to follow someone even with a restraining order and even then they can still follow you, only farther away.. I would have thought you knew that too.


My daughter would not attack someone just because they were just following her, you see she knows it is not against the law, she would have continued on and either called 911 or walked to a store or residence.

I have follow pretty girls many times when I was single, I met a lot girls that way and never once was I attacked.


Now if someone was on top of her banging her head into the concrete she is with in her right to put a bullet into her attacker even several bullets..

Not sure why leftest have such a hard time understanding, trayvon a-t-t-a-c-k-e-d George, he was brutally beating his head against the concrete. Trayvon was a t-h-u-g.....

In fact odds are good trayvon was high at time of attack, one of the side affects of his favorite drug beverage is paranoia and hostility. Autopsy revealed trayvon had severe liver damage from abusing the drug drink..






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You haven't read the autopsy TH. If you had, you would have seen nothing of what you just posted about it. I guess you're just like the ZimmerMan, able to ascertain what people are thinking, are going to do, and what they have done without even being there.

You can google the autopsy report with just a few type strokes. While you're doing that, could you list the cities where "riots" over the verdict occurred? I haven't been able to find any back up to that statement either.

Many thanks.:dontknow:
 

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You haven't read the autopsy TH. If you had, you would have seen nothing of what you just posted about it. I guess you're just like the ZimmerMan, able to ascertain what people are thinking, are going to do, and what they have done without even being there.

You can google the autopsy report with just a few type strokes. While you're doing that, could you list the cities where "riots" over the verdict occurred? I haven't been able to find any back up to that statement either.

Many thanks.:dontknow:


Dave, are you calling me a liar telling me I havent read the report.... As you said the report is on line and I have read it.............

A WFTV report shows some aspects of the autopsy performed on Trayvon Martin. FULL AUTOPSY REPORT HERE – The autopsy revealed bruising and cuts to the hands of Trayvon Martin consistent with the statements and accounts of George Zimmerman. The autopsy also revealed that Trayvon had THC in his blood and urine consistent with marijuana use.

In addition the autopsy report revealed moderate beginning signs of brain damage, and mild liver damage associated with prolonged use of DXM or in street lingo “Lean “ in an otherwise healthy young man. 2006 ABC NEWS - It’s more than a drug; it’s a culture. It’s what’s known on the street as “Lean,” a highly addictive cocktail of cough syrup, Juice or soda, and candy (see Watermelon Juice, Skittles, Robitussin) so potent it makes you “lean” over when high.

Below lists the liver damage on a 17 year old...






Dave as far as the riots, I do not remember posting anywhere there were riots, but do you want me to list or post all the attacks on whites since the verdict? Your telling me you have not read or heard of any of the related attacks... You heard nothing on it!

Here are just a few examples...... By the way I myself have been verbally threaten while working in a bad part of town, I have since told my company I will not go to that part of town again unless I have escort.

School teacher attacked

White Marine Attacked After Zimmerman Verdict In Possible Hate Crime 2 Marines attacked

Adams Morgan hate crime was motivated by Zimmerman verdict, police say - The Washington Post
Attacked and robbed as attackers yell this is for Trayvon


Zimmerman Verdict: Black Gangs Attack Whites Across U.S. - Whites Encouraged to Carry Guns... (Graphic Video) - National Report | National Report
Story on attacks
 

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Let's also remember Bernard Getz , who blasted some thugs on the subway in new york after being harrassed many times before.

He decided he wasn't going to ever be a victim again.
 

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No matter how the left tries to spin it or, there was no evidence produced at trial to show it was anything but self defense on George's part. Some jury members have already stated they wanted to find him guility, but there was just no evidence or legal cause to do so..

Again I point out IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO FOLLOW SOMEONE, BUT IT IS ILLEGAL TO ATTACK SOMEONE.. You can not attack someone just because they are following you, if you do you are the aggressor...
 

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how did you get that out of what you posted? I'm trying to find the words "mild liver damage ........attributed to the use of DXM"

Finding the "moderate beginnings of brain damage" is even harder.

To the other question, you are stating you are ok with someone following your daughter and if she turns and kicks him where it hurts, the follower has the right to claim self defense if they do anything? Or not?

Don't you see the idiocy of that? Oh, and I'm just wondering if you read the links you posted? There's a whole lot maybes, could a
beens, might haves, going on there. Is there anyway we could tie the Hialeah killer into this? If only there was a concealed weapon carrier on that. Oh, He was a CCW holder.

My bad.
 

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how did you get that out of what you posted? I'm trying to find the words "mild liver damage ........attributed to the use of DXM"

Finding the "moderate beginnings of brain damage" is even harder.

To the other question, you are stating you are ok with someone following your daughter and if she turns and kicks him where it hurts, the follower has the right to claim self defense if they do anything? Or not?

Don't you see the idiocy of that? Oh, and I'm just wondering if you read the links you posted? There's a whole lot maybes, could a
beens, might haves, going on there. Is there anyway we could tie the Hialeah killer into this? If only there was a concealed weapon carrier on that. Oh, He was a CCW holder.

My bad.

Kentucky Kache?
Sure does sound like you.
There is No comparison between a male being followed and a female. Why don't you try man and son instead.
 

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how did you get that out of what you posted? I'm trying to find the words "mild liver damage ........attributed to the use of DXM"

Finding the "moderate beginnings of brain damage" is even harder.

To the other question, you are stating you are ok with someone following your daughter and if she turns and kicks him where it hurts, the follower has the right to claim self defense if they do anything? Or not?

Don't you see the idiocy of that? Oh, and I'm just wondering if you read the links you posted? There's a whole lot maybes, could a
beens, might haves, going on there. Is there anyway we could tie the Hialeah killer into this? If only there was a concealed weapon carrier on that. Oh, He was a CCW holder.

My bad.

Keep reaching Dave........

Not sure what is so hard for you to grasp. It is NOT illegal to follow someone.

If I follow you because I find you suspicious or for what ever reason and you turn and attack me for following you, you are the aggressor, I broke no laws by following you, but you did in attacking me.

I have a daughter and if a man is following her she would call 911 (Trayvon choose not too) or go to someone or a populated place for safety. She would not turn and attack him, especially since he has done nothing wrong...

Again it is not against the law to follow someone as long as you make no physical contact or confrontation...To turn and attack them because they are following you makes you the aggressor, and your the one breaking the law...




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Dear Jeff of pa! Obviously as a moderator you have your opinion, but I feel as if you have attempted to inject an attitude which is totally inconsistent with my opinion! From what I glean out of your bumper sticker attitude, everyone who doesn't agree with the constitution should revolt and develop a new pathway!! Perhaps you are correct, but in my scope I understand that as a course of Anarchy!! In any event I was attempting to express my belief in equality of individuals granted by OUR constitution and the RIGHTS guaranteed for all!! I am certain there are many through out this nation who donot agree with this, but overthrow of Our government is not the answer!! I truly hope I have misread your intended reference of some bumper sticker!! I have lived outside of the US for several years, and quite frankly enjoyed returning home, being capable of residing in this country since that time! I await your reply!! Cordially!! VERDE!!
 

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Dear Jeff of pa! Obviously as a moderator you have your opinion, but I feel as if you have attempted to inject an attitude which is totally inconsistent with my opinion! From what I glean out of your bumper sticker attitude, everyone who doesn't agree with the constitution should revolt and develop a new pathway!! Perhaps you are correct, but in my scope I understand that as a course of Anarchy!! In any event I was attempting to express my belief in equality of individuals granted by OUR constitution and the RIGHTS guaranteed for all!! I am certain there are many through out this nation who donot agree with this, but overthrow of Our government is not the answer!! I truly hope I have misread your intended reference of some bumper sticker!! I have lived outside of the US for several years, and quite frankly enjoyed returning home, being capable of residing in this country since that time! I await your reply!! Cordially!! VERDE!!

VERDE I already treat everyone equally that I'm aware of, it just comes naturally.
and I'm not talking just colors, I'm also talking up-bringing , what they do to survive (beg, borrow,steal,earn) education, drug of choice they may ingest, etc.
that is until they show me, they feel like they are above me.
(politicians & some cops)

unfortunately I'm probably alone in this attitude.

as for Anarchy in the U.s.A. all I can say is :headbang:,

even though I Wouldn't want the constitution changed.
and I wouldn't want to see the cry babies of the world get their way.

This country was built on the "d" word , and no I ain't going there.
No politics in "Everything else"

Sooo yes I stand by my statement If you don't like how things are done,
feel free to try & change them , even if it is to my disappointment.

which brings up another "Bumper sticker" I have a problem with :laughing7:

"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."

Should be "Just because I disagree, doesn't mean you need to change"

But I ain't fighting to the death over it :tongue3:
 

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Jeff of pa! Obviously, your intellect is limited to bumper stickers!! I donot hear much more than this in your diatribe! In any event if you have never been followed. Go to Phildelphia, I'm certain someone would be happy to assist you! I assume the Avatar you have posted consist of looking for a little dog! WOW! Truly sad when ?AMERICANS? Have totally incongruous views!! Wish you the very best in your future adventures, but please donot attempt to misconstrue my views by another bumper sticker, as I can assure you I can provide multiple views consistent with your apparent opinions!! GOOD HUNTING!! VERDE!!
 

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Jeff of pa! Obviously, your intellect is limited to bumper stickers!! I donot hear much more than this in your diatribe! In any event if you have never been followed. Go to Phildelphia, I'm certain someone would be happy to assist you! I assume the Avatar you have posted consist of looking for a little dog! WOW! Truly sad when ?AMERICANS? Have totally incongruous views!! Wish you the very best in your future adventures, but please donot attempt to misconstrue my views by another bumper sticker, as I can assure you I can provide multiple views consistent with your apparent opinions!! GOOD HUNTING!! VERDE!!


if you have never been followed. Go to Phildelphia,

well if the cops & wanna Be cops are that bored down there that they follow people around, No thanks :tongue3:

Verde you apparently never read what I said. I said I don't like bumper stickers.

Your Comments:



your intellect is limited to bumper stickers

the Avatar you have posted consist of looking for a little dog!
? :tongue3: I am not a Mason, the ring was a Find :thumbsup:

please donot attempt to misconstrue my views by another bumper sticker
again Huh ?
I do not feel I was ?

that said your first Comment would have earned you Time off if you said these to a regular Member.

Guess What, You've only been here a Month tops & your Attacking me for a different opinion then you.

I take it your a former Member Who has Come back, &
unless I Change my Mind after researching , Be prepared to consider yourself a former Member.



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Dear jeff of pa! First of all, let me say I truly do appreciate your position and I am certain difficult decisions you must make! In all fairness I felt the Un-American comment on my initial post rather degrading-there is no individual who loves the USA more than I! In addition I have never been a previous member, and have enjoyed the site! You can certainly review my previous posts and realize they have always been quite constructive! I do apologize for the rather harsh comment concerning you intelect and bumper stickers, but it does appear all of your quotes were coming from these! As far as being a former member only you have control over this! I fortunately feel my contributions to this site have been quite positive!! Wishing you the best!! Have a Great Day and GOOD HUNTING!! VERDE!!
 

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Dear jeff of pa! First of all, let me say I truly do appreciate your position and I am certain difficult decisions you must make! In all fairness I felt the Un-American comment on my initial post rather degrading-there is no individual who loves the USA more than I! In addition I have never been a previous member, and have enjoyed the site! You can certainly review my previous posts and realize they have always been quite constructive! I do apologize for the rather harsh comment concerning you intelect and bumper stickers, but it does appear all of your quotes were coming from these! As far as being a former member only you have control over this! I fortunately feel my contributions to this site have been quite positive!! Wishing you the best!! Have a Great Day and GOOD HUNTING!! VERDE!!

VERDE, reviewing your record here, & my after-thought that you apparently took
what I said to you personal & believe me it was not my intention.

at first I took your comment
your intellect is limited to bumper stickers
as a direct insult.


& the more I read it, I felt perhaps it wasn't meant as an attack on my intelligence.
:laughing7:This is Why your still here

As far as the bumper sticker comment on my part, it was simply
my choice of lead in because I knew that there are Bumper stickers
like that :tongue3: it wasn't intended to be anything else.
but I suppose my Mind did get "stuck" on it a bit :tongue3:

as far as My " Un-American" comment that too was not meant as an accusation, against you.

it is, And was meant as my opinion on the Love it or Leave it attitude itself

I hope this Explains , that I haven't confused things More 8-)

Anyway Case Closed in My opinion
& your apology accepted :thumbsup:
 

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