Texas Politician Says State is Preparing to Become ‘Independent Nation’

[Dave44]

"whoa, whoa, whoa. When did a Muslim country invade the United States of America? Actually use military force(you know, like armies and air forces, something like Shock & Awe) to attempt to topple our government and destroy our governmental authorities?



So.... Was TH's post tough on you? Did you understand it? Do you care one way or another? Do you understand "Muslim country" doesn't mean anything?

 

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[austin]

well, as T_H had no comment to the contrary I guess name calling is ok if you are against all muslims and want to call anyone who has a different opinion names

I don't know. That 72 virgin thing sounds Ok, but I think I'll start a religion where you get 72 women in Paradise or Las Vegas who know what they're doing. Someone with a little experience. And I don't need them to feed me grapes. Some Don Julio tequila with a slice of lime would be good.
On another subject, someone asked who invaded the U.S. last. I vote for Pancho Villa when he invaded New Mexico awhile back.

And wasn't this thread about us(Texas) seceding? We ain't goin nowhere. We love them federal dollars that Daddy Barack keeps sending us for our Lone Star card carryin, welfare cheatin, pinto bean eatin typical texan. We poor, but we proud. And we ain't givin up them federal dollars that keep us from havin to work...

 

[Dave44]

I don't know. That 72 virgin thing sounds Ok, but I think I'll start a religion where you get 72 women in Paradise or Las Vegas who know what they're doing. Someone with a little experience. And I don't need them to feed me grapes. Some Don Julio tequila with a clice of lime would be good.
On another subject, someone asked who invaded the U.S. last. I vote for Pancho Villa when he invaded New Mexico awhile back.

And wasn't this thread about us(Texas) seceding? We ain't goin nowhere. We love them federal dollars that Daddy Barack keeps sending us for our Lone Star card carryin, welfare cheatin, pinto bean eatin typical texan. We poor, but we proud. And we ain't givin up them federal dollars that keep us from havin to work...

The problem Austin, is that you give more money than you take,, You be proud, you be poor, but you would have mo money than if you sent it to the middle man, daddy BO, and asked him to give you an allowance. .

 

[Bum Luck]

The problem Austin, is that you give more money than you take,, You be proud, you be poor, but you would have mo money than if you sent it to the middle man, daddy BO, and asked him to give you an allowance.

The idea that federal tax dollars need to be returned to the states where they came from ranks right up there with Texas seceding from the US.

What is it about failure to think issues through that appeals to some?

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

The problem Austin, is that you give more money than you take,, You be proud, you be poor, but you would have mo money than if you sent it to the middle man, daddy BO, and asked him to give you an allowance. .

Dave that is unexceptionable, please do not repeat......


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[Dave44]

Sorry TH , Maybe I typed it wrong? My point was that if Texas seceded, why would they keep sending $ to the feds they could take that tax money and still never have a state tax,, matter of fact by the numbers I posted they would have more money. Bum nearly understood, but left the train of thought, so I must have missed part of my post because I meant in no way that money would be returned to states, as Texas would not be a state if it left. Did I type a nono?

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Sorry TH , Maybe I typed it wrong? My point was that if Texas seceded, why would they keep sending $ to the feds they could take that tax money and still never have a state tax,, matter of fact by the numbers I posted they would have more money. Bum nearly understood, but left the train of thought, so I must have missed part of my post because I meant in no way that money would be returned to states, as Texas would not be a state if it left. Did I type a nono?

Your last line was offensive...

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[Ammonhotep]

Nice, We can see your bias from here.

This guy is one evil capitalist too. But his son looks to have been turned to your side, probably because daddy doesn't want to give it all to him. As it turns out a lot of the influential blue bloods on your side came from well to do families,, I think the silver spoon hurt their common sense education. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/16/u...residential-politics.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

If you received your degree here in the US you probably owe a debt to the Capitalists that donated money to your institution. Despite your progressive teachings most of these colleges were started by a successful man or company.


Some light reading for you.
effective philanthropy

First, you shouldn't assume what my biases are; that only belies your own.

Second, I graduated with three university degrees in the US, but from a private religious university. As a tax exempt organization, the church funding my university receives donations from a worldwide membership, including both myself and the Jon Huntsman you reference in your link. Where is this assumption of Jr. being jealous of Sr's money? You're kidding, right? Also, if you think that J.H. Jr. is a liberal, you're off your nut. He is a solid moderate, like myself. I'm the swing voter all you radicals and extremists (on both sides) can't seem to wrangle into a narrow package ideology.

(I hope you read the last line of that NYT article you posted!)

Next: as for educational debts, I owe them only to banks, which are, incidentally, the perfect example of capitalist trickle-UP economies. No Reaganomics in the banking industry, I assure you!

What few left-wingers and even fewer right-wingers seem to understand is that asset markets are trickle-DOWN markets and liability markets are trickle-UP markets. Not only that, but a consumer economy favors liabilities, for obvious reasons. Planned obsolescence is but one way to created a liability out of something that doesn't have to be. Marketing campaigns to created perceived obsolescence is another. What? The Joneses have a nicer phone than you do? You should be able to upgrade when you want!

(If you want to relate this to Texas, that's the reason it would fail as a country: too many liabilities, not enough assets.)

And lastly,Dave44, dare not to preach to me about philanthropy. I studied philanthropy all through both of my grad degrees, I've competed successfully in social entrepreneurship business plan competitions, and gave away about 30% of my income last year. I study nonprofit tax law for fun, have started two nonprofit organizations, and constantly review the most effective organizations for innovative new trends in, among others, the following: traditional philanthropy, social entrepreneurship, L3Cs, and for-profit business (especially double- and triple-bottom-line businesses).

I seriously doubt your assumptions have held up if you actually read all that, Dave44.

I'm done here.

 

[Dave44]

Ammo,

So much yet so little information. If you were in school now you would get to owe the Gov for your education. No choices there. Surely you can tell us how this will benefit Americans. Maybe you have seen the few times that bureaucracy has tried to set interest rates lately,, what a joke,, but it will hurt later.

Huntsman junior and yourself are only moderates in your own minds, you are solidly left.

Never underestimate the socialist stance that all corporations are evil and therefore there must be nonprofits started to effect change.

" And lastly,Dave44, dare not to preach to me about philanthropy. I studied philanthropy all through both of my grad degrees, I've competed successfully in social entrepreneurship business plan competitions, and gave away about 30% of my income last year."

" Social " entrepreneurship? mmmmmmhhhmmmm.

 

[olroy70]

First, you shouldn't assume what my biases are; that only belies your own.

Second, I graduated with three university degrees in the US, but from a private religious university. As a tax exempt organization, the church funding my university receives donations from a worldwide membership, including both myself and the Jon Huntsman you reference in your link. Where is this assumption of Jr. being jealous of Sr's money? You're kidding, right? Also, if you think that J.H. Jr. is a liberal, you're off your nut. He is a solid moderate, like myself. I'm the swing voter all you radicals and extremists (on both sides) can't seem to wrangle into a narrow package ideology.

(I hope you read the last line of that NYT article you posted!)

Next: as for educational debts, I owe them only to banks, which are, incidentally, the perfect example of capitalist trickle-UP economies. No Reaganomics in the banking industry, I assure you!

What few left-wingers and even fewer right-wingers seem to understand is that asset markets are trickle-DOWN markets and liability markets are trickle-UP markets. Not only that, but a consumer economy favors liabilities, for obvious reasons. Planned obsolescence is but one way to created a liability out of something that doesn't have to be. Marketing campaigns to created perceived obsolescence is another. What? The Joneses have a nicer phone than you do? You should be able to upgrade when you want!

(If you want to relate this to Texas, that's the reason it would fail as a country: too many liabilities, not enough assets.)

And lastly,Dave44, dare not to preach to me about philanthropy. I studied philanthropy all through both of my grad degrees, I've competed successfully in social entrepreneurship business plan competitions, and gave away about 30% of my income last year. I study nonprofit tax law for fun, have started two nonprofit organizations, and constantly review the most effective organizations for innovative new trends in, among others, the following: traditional philanthropy, social entrepreneurship, L3Cs, and for-profit business (especially double- and triple-bottom-line businesses).

I seriously doubt your assumptions have held up if you actually read all that, Dave44.

I'm done here.

I enjoy studying how other people give money, too.......... I dont do it my self, either..

I also enjoying sending liberals to colleges so they can preach to me about how bad my country is.

right now, I am in a hospital with my mom, who is paying for the same test over and over, and mostly watching people get free healthcare........including people handcuffed to beds. send in those free federal bucks! otherwise, they take medicare out of my ss to pay for

sure glad a college education makes a 'solid moderate' out of ya.........

a moderate is someone who is wishy-washy on most issues! but, dont worry...............BO will tell ya what to think on any subject you can think of.

most of my education has been 'hard knocks', which includes two tours of NAM, and a lot of years giving money to the guvt, so they can give me a little of it back, and call it an entitlement!!!!!!!!!!

If I live until I am 95, I will get back what I paid in. that is with NO interest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Gentlemen, please let's stop comparing degrees, it can be taken as talking down to members ....


From our rules......

"All members are equal, regardless of age, gender, ethnicity, education, or experience. Never take a superior tone with, or "talk down" to, anyone."



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[jerseyben]

Rolls eyes... Give me a break...

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Rolls eyes... Give me a break...

JB, do you have a problem with my posting the rules? If your challenging what i said I would caution you to please be careful......

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[jerseyben]

Huntsman junior and yourself are only moderates in your own minds, you are solidly left.

Interesting statement from a guy who has referred to himself as "liberal" in past posts.

 

[Dave44]

Interesting statement from a guy who has referred to himself as "liberal" in past posts.

Because I am a liberal. Huntsman is far left of me. Thanks for pointing it out, I meant to sign it that way.

If you get hung up on political parties you are blinded to reality.(Maybe I meant agenda)

 

[pippinwhitepaws]

95 posts later, tejas is still here....just get a move on will ya?

 

[jerseyben]

Because I am a liberal. Huntsman is far left of me. Thanks for pointing it out, I meant to sign it that way.

If you get hung up on political parties you are blinded to reality.

I would say that Huntsman is a Republican that liberals, like myself, can get behind.

 

[Dave44]

Did someone give a deadline? I didn't see that, it would make it interesting! At least we saw Alec Baldwin follow through on his threat to move if Bush was elected.

 

[Dave44]

I would say that Huntsman is a Republican that liberals, like myself, can get behind.

I guess that gives us some yardstick, you are more liberal than myself.

 

[jerseyben]

I guess that gives us some yardstick, you are more liberal than myself.

I think that is an understatement, but not in the way you think...