1700's British Navy button. Partial Trade axe. Tinklers. Pistol butt cup?

[Aureus]

Hey everyone,

Just wanted to share with you some of the recent finds.

First a very nice Royal Navy 1700's button. Very surprised it survived so well. It's a first one for me of this type.




A few Native copper tinklers. Already found a couple in the past. These two are by far the smallest.



A partial Trade Axe. It's really sad it's not a complete one as it's shape is just awesome, it had a very large blade.



A possible butt cup from a pistol. It's made of iron which is unusual but I have seen a few non copper-brass types online. Found a few medium sized musket balls in the area so it seems to fit.






An unusual tool found a few feet from the Trade axe. From what I understood a possible chisel to remove bark from trees. The tool was buried in a vertical position with the rings still hanging from the handle.



Thanks for the comments.

 

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[pepperj]

Liking the patina on the Navy Button, and well done on the tinkers. I would go with the butt cup theory as sure looks like one, but in iron. The chisel I would say it might be for doing large mortises in logs, as an axe or shave was used in removing bark over using a chisel. Here's an interesting dating link for woodworking tools.
Woodworking Tools, 1600–1900, by Peter C. Welsh.

 

[trapperart]

Congrats on the great button and other nice finds

 

[vpnavy]

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Thanks for sharing!​

 

[Tom Bigbee]

I'm liking that button...

 

[Relicific]

Yes that button is a beauty.
Lots of interesting finds on that hunt.
Nice going

 

[WawaDuane]

Cool finds...tinklers are always cool.

 

[Bill D. (VA)]

Love that butt cap, and that's the first one I've seen made from iron. I've only recovered one of those, and it was brass which is typical. That's a great navy button too!

 

[CRUSADER]

IP & I have an interesting debate on those types of 'Navy looking' buttons. Pretty sure its not 'Royal', might be merchant. No-one is sure, unless you want to put a good source doc in the mix? It is however the date you state.

 

[Silver Searcher]

IP & I have an interesting debate on those types of 'Navy looking' buttons. Pretty sure its not 'Royal', might be merchant. No-one is sure, unless you want to put a good source doc in the mix? It is however the date you state.

Was there a merchant navy in the 1700's, it was GeorgeV who first gave the title of merchant navy.

SS

 

[Iron Patch]

IP & I have an interesting debate on those types of 'Navy looking' buttons. Pretty sure its not 'Royal', might be merchant. No-one is sure, unless you want to put a good source doc in the mix? It is however the date you state.

It's strange. I have seen these dug steady for the past 15 years and have never seen any good reference IDing them. I've found at least 10 myself, maybe more.

 

[Aureus]

Liking the patina on the Navy Button, and well done on the tinkers. I would go with the butt cup theory as sure looks like one, but in iron. The chisel I would say it might be for doing large mortises in logs, as an axe or shave was used in removing bark over using a chisel. Here's an interesting dating link for woodworking tools.
Woodworking Tools, 1600–1900, by Peter C. Welsh.

Thank you for the info on the tools. Great information!

 

[Aureus]

Congrats on the great button and other nice finds

Thank you.

 

[Aureus]

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Thanks for sharing!​

Thank you.

 

[Aureus]

Yes that button is a beauty.
Lots of interesting finds on that hunt.
Nice going

Thanks Tony.

 

[Aureus]

Cool finds...tinklers are always cool.

Thank you.

 

[Aureus]

Love that butt cap, and that's the first one I've seen made from iron. I've only recovered one of those, and it was brass which is typical. That's a great navy button too!

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That's a great butt cup. Congrats. It sure looks similar to mine. Maybe mine was made to replace a similar model after the original broke off.

 

[Gridwalker306]

Great stuff as usual, really like that navy button

 

[Aureus]

IP & I have an interesting debate on those types of 'Navy looking' buttons. Pretty sure its not 'Royal', might be merchant. No-one is sure, unless you want to put a good source doc in the mix? It is however the date you state.

Yes. Pretty hard to find out for sure. I have contacted a few people who specialize in military buttons and they all agreed on the term I used. But I agree, the documentation for those seems to be lacking.

 

[Aureus]

It's strange. I have seen these dug steady for the past 15 years and have never seen any good reference IDing them. I've found at least 10 myself, maybe more.

Yes. Strange no one did a serious research on them.