1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

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1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

Went exploring for new spots on Sunday with my brother-in law, DigginitRTB. You would never know this place was there, only 20-30 yds. off the main trail we walk on. We found a stone wall running approx. 100 yds. long along the side of the main trail and thought it was part of a close by foundation. Thought we would check it out anyway and Rich said he thought he found what was a cellar hole. Called me over and sure enough it was. Found a nice button, a trigger guard to an old musket, and this King George III 1783 copper. Couple things are different on this one. The "S" in GEORGIVS is backwards,(almost looks like a "2"), the 3 in the date is slightly seperated from the rest of the date, and the dot after "REX" is below the bust. The shirt or breast of King George is also different from the dies I've looked at. More or less looks like a series of 6 crescent moons. sorry the scans don't look that good but there is alot of detail left on this coin. Also, the back shield is tipped more than the other die varieties I've looked at. :icon_scratch: Can someone help with ID on this one? :icon_study: Thanks HOGGE Saw 2 other posts from Sunday with King George coppers. Musta been the day for these! UPDATE: In recent days this coin has been positively ID'd as a CFT 25-83A one of ONLY 3,(mine being the third), known to exist. I would first like to thank Iron Patch, and Don in SJ, for without their time and help this would NOT have been possible.This site is AWESOME! And would also like to acknowledge the help of PBK and Jeff of PA with the help on my British Belt Tip. Through Don's knowledge and contacts in the Colonial Collectors world, a DEFINITE, POSITIVE, ID on this coin was possible. Byron Weston of PSU, and Gary Trudgen of "The Colonial Coin Collectors Club" have ID'd this coin and want to do a write up for the C4 Newsletter and Colonial Newsletter on this discovery. I WILL be attending the C4 Convention in Boston the week of Nov. 14-17 with the Ryder 7 Vermont, the British Cartridge Box Belt Tip, the 25-83A, and other CFT coppers found this yr. Tony Carlotto will be contacted to take some better pics and do weight and measurements for them for the newsletter. From what these guys are telling me, over the past couple of days with numerous EMails, the example I have is in better condition than the second known example. They want to compare weight, diameter, and die rotation to the other examples. This whole run of LUCK I've had in the last month has been like a dream. There are several people these guys want me to see, and talk to when I attend the C4. I can't wait! THIS COIN IS IN BETTER CONDITION THAN THE SCAN SHOWS! I HATE MY SCANNER! Anyways, Good Luck to all, and many Thanks to ALL who helped me!
 

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Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

Even my eyes are crossed for ye. Good Luck! No matter what ya relize in the auction, it should get ya a trip to the U.K. for a hunt with the legendary CRU........NGE
 

Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

notgittinenny ( treasures ) said:
Even my eyes are crossed for ye. Good Luck! No matter what ya relize in the auction, it should get ya a trip to the U.K. for a hunt with the legendary CRU........NGE
"There's no place like home......There's no place like home!" :icon_sunny: :thumbsup:
 

Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

Congrats on your amazing find!
 

Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

Good Luck!!!! I'll be waiting eagerly to hear the results. :thumbsup:
 

Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

And then ANXIETY SET IN........10 hrs. left to go and no bids yet. I have to realize that there are only a handful of collectors that are interested in these pieces. How much will it go for? Will it sell at all? This is my first experience in an auction of this magnitude. I'm nervous. :tard: Even if it doesn't sell, we only owe Stacks $150.00. :-\ :'(. C 'mon God... I've been a good boy.
 

Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

hogge said:
And then ANXIETY SET IN........10 hrs. left to go and no bids yet. I have to realize that there are only a handful of collectors that are interested in these pieces. How much will it go for? Will it sell at all? This is my first experience in an auction of this magnitude. I'm nervous. :tard: Even if it doesn't sell, we only owe Stacks $150.00. :-\ :'(. C 'mon God... I've been a good boy.


It no doubt works like Ebay with buyers waiting until a very short time left in the auction before bid.
 

Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

Can you pull it, if there are no bids? maybe the 2800.00 minimum bid is what everyone thought they were going to get it for. Hope not. Hope it goes through the ceiling with 1 hour left and sets a record. Hard to see what I am typing, as I still have my eyes crossed for ye. Good Luck..........NGE
 

Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

Another question. What is the LOT NUMBER? I can't find it on their site........NGE
 

Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

notgittinenny ( treasures ) said:
Can you pull it, if there are no bids? maybe the 2800.00 minimum bid is what everyone thought they were going to get it for. Hope not. Hope it goes through the ceiling with 1 hour left and sets a record. Hard to see what I am typing, as I still have my eyes crossed for ye. Good Luck..........NGE

The last sold for near 11k, I think he is ok. :tongue3:
 

Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

Thanks I.P. lot # is 7481
 

Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

As IP says I think he will be fine.Live bidding doesen't start until 7:40 PM.I sure hope for him it kicks in.

G1
 

Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

Golden1 said:
As IP says I think he will be fine.Live bidding doesen't start until 7:40 PM.I sure hope for him it kicks in.

G1


The big players will be there so whatever it gets is really what it's worth so should be happy with it. The buying price was good enough there should never be a complaint. :D
 

Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

Iron Patch said:
Golden1 said:
As IP says I think he will be fine.Live bidding doesen't start until 7:40 PM.I sure hope for him it kicks in.

G1


The big players will be there so whatever it gets is really what it's worth so should be happy with it. The buying price was good enough there should never be a complaint. :D
I agree IP, I just hope it works out well for Todd :thumbsup:

G1
 

Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

I'm holding my breath for you. I'm sure somebody will bid. If not, you still have the find of a lifetime, if not historical value. :'(
 

Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

Would realllllllyyyyyyyyyy like to know if it went up for auction and if it did sell, how much did it bring????

Ray S
 

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