1795 2 Reales!

Nick79

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Well I'm not sleeping tonight. Dug a dream coin for us here on the west coast. Cant get much older than this one on our side. Rang up a bit choppy between a dime and a quarter on my equinox 800. Down between 6 to 8". Cleaned it for about 3 hours and I think I'll stop here. The crust on this reminded me of that crusty white stuff aluminum gets but much harder. Thanks for looking 20190727_192034.webp20190727_192054.webpPSX_20190728_010802.webp
 

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i live here in cali and there is alot of hidden history here
 

If I may ask a question because of my own ignorance. U.S. history was never my thing, so is there a particular place where reales are found. What I guess I mean is, can they be found anywhere any US coin could be found or only where civil war fighting was happening. I dont really understand the relationship between Spanish money being in US territory. Could someone give me a quick history lesson on this. I hope I didnt set myself up to get flamed to bad.
You just need to research where people were back in those times and then put your detector to the ground and hope your spot hasn't been detected too much before
 

Very nice save! They're here, but few and far between. One really has to be off the beaten path! :occasion14:
Thanks, or one has to just get lucky after a million plugs haha
 

Nice find. Looks like the same crud i get on my Arizona silver coins. Electrolysis will make it look better.
Thank you, I really need to make one soon for sure
 

i live here in cali and there is alot of hidden history here
Hey neighbor, yes there are still things to be found here, just a lot less than there used to be!
 

Wow Nick...that's an insane find...especially given your West coast local. Huge Congrats from the East coast!!!!
 

If I may ask a question because of my own ignorance. U.S. history was never my thing, so is there a particular place where reales are found. What I guess I mean is, can they be found anywhere any US coin could be found or only where civil war fighting was happening. I dont really understand the relationship between Spanish money being in US territory. Could someone give me a quick history lesson on this. I hope I didnt set myself up to get flamed to bad.

I think Spanish money was considered legal tender up until about Civil War Times which means it was interspersed with US money through the mid-1800s. It was also probably the closest thing to a “world currency” before the British Pound and now US Dollar. From my perspective, it seems like smaller coins from the 1700s were largely British or state issued and larger denomination coins were Spanish/Mexican reales. Because California and other Western states weren’t largely settled by European descent folks until the mid-1800s and later, these are super tricky to find out here. I read about this in depth at one point but can’t find the thread. It must’ve been from Tom in CA on metaldetectingforum.com. It’s an interesting piece of history!
 

Sweet find, congrats! :occasion14:
 

I think Spanish money was considered legal tender up until about Civil War Times which means it was interspersed with US money through the mid-1800s. It was also probably the closest thing to a “world currency” before the British Pound and now US Dollar. From my perspective, it seems like smaller coins from the 1700s were largely British or state issued and larger denomination coins were Spanish/Mexican reales. Because California and other Western states weren’t largely settled by European descent folks until the mid-1800s and later, these are super tricky to find out here. I read about this in depth at one point but can’t find the thread. It must’ve been from Tom in CA on metaldetectingforum.com. It’s an interesting piece of history!

Wow...thanks washingtonian. That's a better explanation than I got from wikipedia. I didnt really understand because I thought the native Americans were here until the pilgrims settled and then they set up american or colonial currency. I couldn't understand Spanish influence here. I just dont know much about history.
 

I think Spanish money was considered legal tender up until about Civil War Times which means it was interspersed with US money through the mid-1800s. It was also probably the closest thing to a “world currency” before the British Pound and now US Dollar. From my perspective, it seems like smaller coins from the 1700s were largely British or state issued and larger denomination coins were Spanish/Mexican reales. Because California and other Western states weren’t largely settled by European descent folks until the mid-1800s and later, these are super tricky to find out here. I read about this in depth at one point but can’t find the thread. It must’ve been from Tom in CA on metaldetectingforum.com. It’s an interesting piece of history!
Great explanation. And yes California didn't get its statehood till 1850 but the Spanish were building missions from 1750 to about 1830
 

Thanks Truth, I haven't even found any 1800s U.S. coins yet!

What!!!! Well that will come. But a 2 reales is insane. You skipped over a whole century and found that reales. Isn’t awesome seeing that 17?

What number did it hit on the 800?
 

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Awesome find! Get yourself a No. 2 pencil eraser and lightly rub the coin. You will be amazed with the results. Let me know how you make out. In my opinion this is the best way to clean a silver coin. Only takes a few seconds to do.
 

Wow...thanks washingtonian. That's a better explanation than I got from wikipedia. I didnt really understand because I thought the native Americans were here until the pilgrims settled and then they set up american or colonial currency. I couldn't understand Spanish influence here. I just dont know much about history.

Not a problem. Here are the exact details from Wikipedia:

The Coinage Act of 1792 created the United States Mint and initially defined the United States dollar at par with the Spanish dollar due to its international reputation:

By far the leading specie coin circulating in America was the Spanish silver dollar, defined as consisting of 387 grains of pure silver. The dollar was divided into "pieces of eight," or "bits," each consisting of one-eighth of a dollar. Spanish dollars came into the North American colonies through lucrative trade with the West Indies. The Spanish silver dollar had been the world's outstanding coin since the early 16th century, and was spread partially by dint of the vast silver output of the Spanish colonies in Latin America. More important, however, was that the Spanish dollar, from the 16th to the 19th century, was relatively the most stable and least debased coin in the Western world. [14]

The Coinage Act of 1792 specified that the U.S. dollar would contain 371.25 grains (24.057 g) pure or 416 grains (26.96 g) standard silver. This specification was based on the average weight of a random selection of worn Spanish dollars which Alexander Hamilton ordered to be weighed at the Treasury. Initially this dollar was comparable to the 371-373 grains found in circulating Spanish dollars and aided in its exportation overseas.[15] The restoration of the old 0.9028 fineness in the Mexican peso after 1821, however, increased the latter’s silver content to 24.44 g and reduced the export demand for US dollars.

Before the American Revolution, owing to British mercantilist policies, there was a chronic shortage of British currency in Britain's colonies. Trade was often conducted with Spanish dollars that had been obtained through illicit trade with the West Indies. Spanish coinage was legal tender in the United States until the Coinage Act of 1857 discontinued the practice. The pricing of equities on U.S. stock exchanges in ​1⁄8-dollar denominations persisted until the New York Stock Exchange converted first to pricing in sixteenths of a dollar on 24 June 1997, and shortly after that, to decimal pricing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_dollar
 

Oxiclean powder would take that crud off of there in just a few minutes. I have a one reale and it took crud similar to that off in about 5-10 minutes. Could even read the date, where I couldn't before I did that. Doesn't hurt or affect the silver coin either, just attacks the crud. Did more than one with that method.
 

What!!!! Well that will come. But a 2 reales is insane. You skipped over a whole century and found that reales. Isn’t awesome seeing that 17?

What number did it hit on the 800?
It was incredible seeing the 17. Last month I dug my oldest silver, a 1845 French 1/2 Franc, and now I beat what I thought I wouldn't be able to.
The 2 reale was ringing up choppy 26 to 28. I just did an air test and its 26
 

It was incredible seeing the 17. Last month I dug my oldest silver, a 1845 French 1/2 Franc, and now I beat what I thought I wouldn't be able to.
The 2 reale was ringing up choppy 26 to 28. I just did an air test and its 26

I found a Spanish spill a 1807 1/2 real and a 1789 1 reale and seeing that 17 was breathtaking.

I’ve very happy for you Nick.
 

Banner all day buddy!!!
 

If you found that in California, then that's an amazingly historic find Nick! :notworthy:
Looks like you've done a great job in restoring it so far.

Dave
 

Congratulations. I live in an area where Spanish silver can be found. Despite it being around it's not easy to find. I've found one in 3 years. Finding one in CA is pretty extraordinary so this is cool to see!
 

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