1805 Admiral Horatio Nelson Mourning/commemorative Naval anchor piece

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Got out to a cellar hole foundation and it was hit pretty hard. a couple buttons. I got a good signal and dug down and out popped a brass fitting, then another and more and more . 42 pounds of brass fittings in one hole lol.
My find of the day was the anchor piece. I had no idea what I had until I got home. thinking just a brass charm from WWII era the whole time.
cleaning it up I see wording. NELSON Oct,21 1805. I guess these were made for a short time after his death and are not very common. I was pretty stoked at what it actually was.

The Battle of Trafalgar (21 October 1805) was a naval engagement between the British Royal Navy and the combined fleets of the French and Spanish Navies during the War of the Third Coalition (August—December 1805) of the Napoleonic Wars (1803—1815).[SUP][3][/SUP] As part of an overall French plan to combine all French and allied fleets to take control of the English Channel and thus enable Napoleon's Grande Armée to invade England, French and Spanish fleets under French Admiral Villeneuve sailed from the port of Cádiz in the south of Spain on 18 October 1805. They encountered the British fleet under Admiral Lord Nelson, recently assembled to meet this threat, in the Atlantic Ocean along the southwest coast of Spain, off Cape Trafalgar, near the town of Los Caños de Meca. Villeneuve was uncertain about engaging the British, and the Franco-Spanish fleet failed to organise fully. In contrast, Nelson was decisive, directing the British fleet into two columns sailing straight into the enemy to pierce its wavering lines.
In a particularly fierce battle, 27 British ships of the line fought 33 French and Spanish ships of the line. The lead ships of the British columns were heavily battered, with Nelson's flagship HMS Victory nearly disabled, but the greater experience and training of the Royal Navy overcame greater numbers. The Franco-Spanish fleet lost 22 ships while the British lost none. Nelson himself was shot by a French musketeer, and died shortly before the battle ended.
 

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Good find from an historic battle....
 

Well kiss me Hardy...amazing find! I also heard he had pleaded not to be buried at sea and so they placed him inside a whiskey barrel? Not sure on the kind of alcohol and that they shared drinks from the barrel...upon return...not entirely sure how accurate my account is...and also that he was shot from long range...
 

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Very Cool!!! Congrats!!!
 

Well kiss me Hardy...amazing find! I also heard he had pleaded not to be buried at sea and so they placed him inside a whiskey barrel? Not sure on the kind of alcohol and that they shared drinks from the barrel...upon return...not entirely sure how accurate my account is...and also that he was shot from long range...

Love anything Nelson-related.

In terms of commemoratives, souvenirs and such we probably have more of them relating to Admiral Lord Nelson than any other non-royal you could name. I haven’t seen that particular anchor pendant design before but there are a myriad of them together with busts, silhouettes, crockery, tankards, medallions and a whole host of other items. They don’t all date to the time of his death and they were produced for years afterwards, feeding national pride at various times. There was a second surge in them at Nelson’s centenary in 1905.

Some of the brass and bronze memorabilia was produced using small amounts of copper reclaimed from the hull-cladding of vessels of the fleet and in some cases specifically refer to “copper from Nelson’s ships” or even “copper from HMS Victory” itself. I have small piece of oak from HMS Victory which also includes a trenail (treenail)… a wooden peg used to secure maritime timber:

Victory 1.webp Victory 2.webp

This piece was reclaimed from unsound timber cut out of the ship during restoration and has an accompanying certificate from the company authorised to do the work. It has some original gun-deck top-coat paint (the creamy coloured deposit) on the uncut side. Contrary to popular belief, the gun-decks and such were not painted red to hide the blood. Sailors in Nelson’s time were made of sterner stuff and anything other than a pale paint would also have had a terrible effect on the dim lighting below decks.

The ultimately fatal wound to Nelson was delivered by a marksman firing from the French ship ‘Redoutable’ (multiple Frenchmen later claimed to be the sniper) from a range of about 50 feet. As a national hero, it’s inconceivable that he would have been buried at sea after the battle and denied the pomp and circumstance of a funeral befitting his status, so every effort was made to get the body back to England. It was brought back via Gibraltar in a barrel of brandy mixed with camphor and myrrh, lashed to the mainmast of HMS Victory and under guard; then transferred to a lead-lined casket filled with spirits of wine (a crude multiple distilled alcohol).

The barrel had to be topped up several times during the journey, leading to the folklore myth that sailors had been surreptitiously drinking from it and further exaggerated by a story that a small hole was found drilled in the bottom. Sailors were notorious for helping themselves to a drop of rum and other spirits stowed on board ships by using a gimlet to drill a small hole in the casks that could be tapped with a straw. The practice was known as “sucking/bleeding the monkey” and, after Nelson’s time, as “tapping the Admiral”, based on that folklore.
 

That is amazing, also that haul of brass at today's scrap prices is a find too :laughing7:
 

awesome finds, thanks for posting
 

Wow! that's an awesome piece love the history behind it!
 

Nice find Dave!
This, along with your Vernon button, makes you the King of Admiral memorabilia :notworthy:
 

Very Nice Save
 

Love anything Nelson-related.

In terms of commemoratives, souvenirs and such we probably have more of them relating to Admiral Lord Nelson than any other non-royal you could name. I haven’t seen that particular anchor pendant design before but there are a myriad of them together with busts, silhouettes, crockery, tankards, medallions and a whole host of other items. They don’t all date to the time of his death and they were produced for years afterwards, feeding national pride at various times. There was a second surge in them at Nelson’s centenary in 1905.

Some of the brass and bronze memorabilia was produced using small amounts of copper reclaimed from the hull-cladding of vessels of the fleet and in some cases specifically refer to “copper from Nelson’s ships” or even “copper from HMS Victory” itself. I have small piece of oak from HMS Victory which also includes a trenail (treenail)… a wooden peg used to secure maritime timber:

View attachment 1908666 View attachment 1908667

This piece was reclaimed from unsound timber cut out of the ship during restoration and has an accompanying certificate from the company authorised to do the work. It has some original gun-deck top-coat paint (the creamy coloured deposit) on the uncut side. Contrary to popular belief, the gun-decks and such were not painted red to hide the blood. Sailors in Nelson’s time were made of sterner stuff and anything other than a pale paint would also have had a terrible effect on the dim lighting below decks.

The ultimately fatal wound to Nelson was delivered by a marksman firing from the French ship ‘Redoutable’ (multiple Frenchmen later claimed to be the sniper) from a range of about 50 feet. As a national hero, it’s inconceivable that he would have been buried at sea after the battle and denied the pomp and circumstance of a funeral befitting his status, so every effort was made to get the body back to England. It was brought back via Gibraltar in a barrel of brandy mixed with camphor and myrrh, lashed to the mainmast of HMS Victory and under guard; then transferred to a lead-lined casket filled with spirits of wine (a crude multiple distilled alcohol).

The barrel had to be topped up several times during the journey, leading to the folklore myth that sailors had been surreptitiously drinking from it and further exaggerated by a story that a small hole was found drilled in the bottom. Sailors were notorious for helping themselves to a drop of rum and other spirits stowed on board ships by using a gimlet to drill a small hole in the casks that could be tapped with a straw. The practice was known as “sucking/bleeding the monkey” and, after Nelson’s time, as “tapping the Admiral”, based on that folklore.
awesome pieces you have and thank you for all the info!
 

Thank you for sharing that bit of history Red-Coat....fascinating stuff :)
 

Makes me want to watch Master and Commander. Amazing save!
 

Love anything Nelson-related.

In terms of commemoratives, souvenirs and such we probably have more of them relating to Admiral Lord Nelson than any other non-royal you could name. I haven’t seen that particular anchor pendant design before but there are a myriad of them together with busts, silhouettes, crockery, tankards, medallions and a whole host of other items. They don’t all date to the time of his death and they were produced for years afterwards, feeding national pride at various times. There was a second surge in them at Nelson’s centenary in 1905.

Some of the brass and bronze memorabilia was produced using small amounts of copper reclaimed from the hull-cladding of vessels of the fleet and in some cases specifically refer to “copper from Nelson’s ships” or even “copper from HMS Victory” itself. I have small piece of oak from HMS Victory which also includes a trenail (treenail)… a wooden peg used to secure maritime timber:

View attachment 1908666 View attachment 1908667

This piece was reclaimed from unsound timber cut out of the ship during restoration and has an accompanying certificate from the company authorised to do the work. It has some original gun-deck top-coat paint (the creamy coloured deposit) on the uncut side. Contrary to popular belief, the gun-decks and such were not painted red to hide the blood. Sailors in Nelson’s time were made of sterner stuff and anything other than a pale paint would also have had a terrible effect on the dim lighting below decks.

The ultimately fatal wound to Nelson was delivered by a marksman firing from the French ship ‘Redoutable’ (multiple Frenchmen later claimed to be the sniper) from a range of about 50 feet. As a national hero, it’s inconceivable that he would have been buried at sea after the battle and denied the pomp and circumstance of a funeral befitting his status, so every effort was made to get the body back to England. It was brought back via Gibraltar in a barrel of brandy mixed with camphor and myrrh, lashed to the mainmast of HMS Victory and under guard; then transferred to a lead-lined casket filled with spirits of wine (a crude multiple distilled alcohol).

The barrel had to be topped up several times during the journey, leading to the folklore myth that sailors had been surreptitiously drinking from it and further exaggerated by a story that a small hole was found drilled in the bottom. Sailors were notorious for helping themselves to a drop of rum and other spirits stowed on board ships by using a gimlet to drill a small hole in the casks that could be tapped with a straw. The practice was known as “sucking/bleeding the monkey” and, after Nelson’s time, as “tapping the Admiral”, based on that folklore.
Agreed, tough to date an object like that without the right reference source, could easily be 100 years after the event, as you say.
 

Congrats on the Nelson commemorative piece, pretty cool with lots of its plating left.
So you found your first brass hoard!
 

Congrats on the Nelson commemorative piece, pretty cool with lots of its plating left.
So you found your first brass hoard!
thanks! yeah about $80.00 in brass fittings lol
 

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