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Has anyone out there ever heard of a 1858 Indian Head Cent? I have a friend that has one? I have done some research & found no reference to it. As we all know the flying eagle was the coin for 57 & 58, 1859 being the first issure of the Indian Head. I will try to get some pics tuesday.
 

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hogge said:
bula said:
I will talk to the owner today & pass on this great information, would pcgs be a good place to send it or are there other's better suited to look at the coin?
It's the ONLY one I would use. BUT.......you have to find someone to determine what "Pollack" variety it ACTUALLY IS FIRST! That's what I would do.

After looking the main difference in the 208 & the 210 seems to be the 210 was bronze? do you know if all of the patterns were thick like the flying eagle? this one is
 
Something tells me this is a money coin.. Doesn't show much on the net about it.
 
I'd send it to PCGS. No question. If a genuine pattern, its going to be worth some decent money.
 
bula said:
hogge said:
bula said:
I will talk to the owner today & pass on this great information, would pcgs be a good place to send it or are there other's better suited to look at the coin?
It's the ONLY one I would use. BUT.......you have to find someone to determine what "Pollack" variety it ACTUALLY IS FIRST! That's what I would do.

After looking the main difference in the 208 & the 210 seems to be the 210 was bronze? do you know if all of the patterns were thick like the flying eagle? this one is
The main difference would be the size of the bust, which indicates a different die usage. They could have used different metals with the same dies. :dontknow: They could have also used different size planchets. The one your friend has, also has an imperfection at 7-8 o'clock on the reverse, in the leaves. This could have been from a "filled" or improperly cleaned die before striking, or an imperfect planchet. There are ALOT of questions yet to be answered about this coin. There are also small "dings", around the rim. PCGS will, more than likely, put a "damaged rims" qualifier on this coin. If, in fact, they certify it as a pattern IH. Although there are many knowledgeable people on this site, this coin needs a "TRUE", EXPERTS' analysis.
 
You could try to get a couple sharper pics and send an email to Rick Snow, he is a specialist in Flying Eagle and Indian Head Cents. He could be a helpful resource prior to the expense and any potentials with mailing the coin off.

http://www.indiancent.com/

edit to add: He already has a couple of 1858 patterns offered on his site as well as other high end pieces. :icon_thumright:
 
Once again thanks for the info, I will pass it on & try to get some better pics & contact those mentioned.
 

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