20th beach trip celebration!

[Crunchyhippo]

Celebrate with me on my 20st trip out to the beach with a magnificent trash haul! 8 tent pegs, 7 pull tabs, 5 bottle caps, some loose change, and last but not least - foil! I also bet I walked 3 miles in the hot sun collecting it all, so I got some A+ exercise. I can only hope that I collect as much trash my next trip out, since my Manticore isn't able to find gold or silver.

Excelsior!

 

[Crunchyhippo]

Although not as magnificent as my 20th trip out, here's my 21st beach trip's trash haul. I can't complain(!) I got some spendable coinage out of it, a usable fishing lure, and a slightly-rusty wrench to add to my toolbox! Not bad if I say so myself!

 

[LawrencetheMDer]

Love the sarcasm! Yea, we've all been there. At least you weren't in cold water. I hunt east coast Florida in Dec - Jan IN COLD WATER and sometimes find only a coin every hr or so...not even junk to keep me busy... Congrats, I guess...

 

[Crunchyhippo]

Love the sarcasm! Yea, we've all been there. At least you weren't in cold water. I hunt east coast Florida in Dec - Jan IN COLD WATER and sometimes find only a coin every hr or so...not even junk to keep me busy... Congrats, I guess...

I'm sorry, man. I wish your detector collected as much trash as mine does. I'm guess I'm just lucky that way.

 

[djackson7348]

Cut it out! Every day detecting is gold in my book. And sometimes I even find something worth carrying home...

 

[Sand Swinger]

Cut it out! Every day detecting is gold in my book. And sometimes I even find something worth carrying home...

^^^Agreed^^^

A bad days detecting still beats a good day at the office!

 

[pepperj]

Although not as magnificent as my 20th trip out, here's my 21st beach trip's trash haul. I can't complain(!) I got some spendable coinage out of it, a usable fishing lure, and a slightly-rusty wrench to add to my toolbox! Not bad if I say so myself!View attachment 2217657

Observation of posted targets.
You don't have one small item in that picture.
Why?
(I don't expect an answer as you seem to be ignoring questions.)

The main reason why there isn't any small bits of targets because of the operator.

Ouch!
The machine is very capable of detecting small items, yet there's none.

Reasons: Swinging too fast is usually the reason.
Remember it's not a race.
I've seen folks detect at a fast paced walk.
Doing multiple acres an hour-why?

Slow & low means alot.
If your swing is faster than 2 seconds going left, or a right swing,(12 to 2 o'clock and back to 12 o'clock) also if the coil isn't over lapping the previous coverage, then it's too fast.
You can ignore all the tips that members give, that's not a problem either.
But we've all been there, we've all had multiple hunts that can suck the brains out.

But even a blind squirrel finds the occasional nut.
Best of luck.

 

[Sand Swinger]

Reasons: Swinging too fast is usually the reason.
Remember it's not a race.
I've seen folks detect at a fast paced walk.
Doing multiple acres an hour-why?

^^^Agreed^^^ My Minelab Sovereign Elite, being older, has a slow recovery speed and requires a much slower swing speed than today's digital SMF detectors with lightning-fast recovery. Slower walking & slower swing speeds also increase the odds that you'll hear those deep whisper targets, which is what we all listen for when on the wet & in the water. I don't care as much when I'm on the dry, but when on the wet, I want to hear everything, every last bit of a whisper.

Slow & low means alot.
If your swing is faster than 2 seconds going left, or a right swing,(12 to 2 o'clock and back to 12 o'clock) also if the coil isn't over lapping the previous coverage, then it's too fast.

This always kills me, along with the "golfers", that keep their coil 6 - 8 inches off the sand (there goes their depth) and swing their detector like Arnold Palmer. The coil is only over a very narrow slice of sand for maybe a split second, before launching skyward where it's not gonna detect anything. But the coil is so high off the sand to start, that unless there's a rather large and very recent drop, they're probably not gonna hear many targets, lol.

The "golfers" can be amusing to watch but the lack of overlapping swings really bugs me. Well, not really because if I see someone swinging like that, of if I see a "golfer" out on the beach, those are the guys I'm gonna casually follow. But I've seen this on a lot of detecting videos, by experienced guys with tons of detecting videos on their channel. A lot of them start off the video holding their detectors while walking to the location they want to detect. Sidenote: Why aren't they swinging the coil while they're walking to the location? Even if I'm planning to hit the wet & shallow water, I'll start swinging the coil as soon as my feet hit the sand. Why waste a potential opportunity to find a good target or two in the dry while heading towards the location you want to search? But I digress.

These guys are not overlapping their swings but swinging in more of an "S" pattern as they're walking. I've noticed huge gaps in coverage by walking too fast while swinging the coil in this "S" pattern. So IMHO, they're probably only getting about 50% coverage, because they're missing 1/2 the area they're walking over due to not tightly overlapping their coil. But again, no worries, I'll casually follow these guys to get whatever targets that might be lying in the 50% of the area they're missing.

Moral of the story: There might be a bunch of other detectorists on the beach, so to the casual observer, it might look like we have a lot of competition. But from my perspective, from what I've witnessed out on the beach, yeah, there might be a lot of guys swinging away, but larger numbers might not be as big of a competition as one might think. If they're "golfing", walking too fast, not overlapping their sweeps, there's lots of area that they're missing. Experience counts.

 

[pepperj]

^^^Agreed^^^ My Minelab Sovereign Elite, being older, has a slow recovery speed and requires a much slower swing speed than today's digital SMF detectors with lightning-fast recovery. Slower walking & slower swing speeds also increase the odds that you'll hear those deep whisper targets, which is what we all listen for when on the wet & in the water. I don't care as much when I'm on the dry, but when on the wet, I want to hear everything, every last bit of a whisper.

This always kills me, along with the "golfers", that keep their coil 6 - 8 inches off the sand (there goes their depth) and swing their detector like Arnold Palmer. The coil is only over a very narrow slice of sand for maybe a split second, before launching skyward where it's not gonna detect anything. But the coil is so high off the sand to start, that unless there's a rather large and very recent drop, they're probably not gonna hear many targets, lol.

The "golfers" can be amusing to watch but the lack of overlapping swings really bugs me. Well, not really because if I see someone swinging like that, of if I see a "golfer" out on the beach, those are the guys I'm gonna casually follow. But I've seen this on a lot of detecting videos, by experienced guys with tons of detecting videos on their channel. A lot of them start off the video holding their detectors while walking to the location they want to detect. Sidenote: Why aren't they swinging the coil while they're walking to the location? Even if I'm planning to hit the wet & shallow water, I'll start swinging the coil as soon as my feet hit the sand. Why waste a potential opportunity to find a good target or two in the dry while heading towards the location you want to search? But I digress.

These guys are not overlapping their swings but swinging in more of an "S" pattern as they're walking. I've noticed huge gaps in coverage by walking too fast while swinging the coil in this "S" pattern. So IMHO, they're probably only getting about 50% coverage, because they're missing 1/2 the area they're walking over due to not tightly overlapping their coil. But again, no worries, I'll casually follow these guys to get whatever targets that might be lying in the 50% of the area they're missing.

Moral of the story: There might be a bunch of other detectorists on the beach, so to the casual observer, it might look like we have a lot of competition. But from my perspective, from what I've witnessed out on the beach, yeah, there might be a lot of guys swinging away, but larger numbers might not be as big of a competition as one might think. If they're "golfing", walking too fast, not overlapping their sweeps, there's lots of area that they're missing. Experience counts.

I use the Deus ll, fast recovery even probably one of the fastest recovery software today.

Yet I know in heavy iron infested sites slow is the only way.to go.
I've been working a little sand earlier this year.
A little chirp, go over it again slower, nicer sounding target. Even the modern fast recovery units can miss small by going too fast.
When folks have limited time, tired, hurting the lack of finds is usually a given.

 

[Crunchyhippo]

I've watched enough detectorists and seen enough videos to get the right speed in my head. I, too, have seen people who looked they were speed-walking as they detected, so I know what not to do.

I changed beaches to the busy one here, figuring that even with the higher number of detectorists out there, there's more stuff to find. Sure enough, I struck paydirt yesterday! A junk gold rink and a junk pearl earring! Looks like my decision paid off right away. I've figured out now that generally on my TF Manticore, the junk gold is in the 30-45 range, and the junk silver is in the 90s somewhere. At least that's my experience. And yesterday I celebrated my 27th trip to the beach with only trash found. I'll be going after my 28th in a day or two. Wish me luck!

 

[mjb Mike]

I dont think you did so bad if all you did is change one of those bottle caps with a gold or silver ring that would be a good day.Ive walked a lot father then that for less.The machine finds metal if the good stuffs not there the machine wont change that

 

[Crunchyhippo]

I dont think you did so bad if all you did is change one of those bottle caps with a gold or silver ring that would be a good day.Ive walked a lot father then that for less.The machine finds metal if the good stuffs not there the machine wont change that

I don't really care for gold and silver, since I never find it. I'm moved on to junk jewelry. That junk starfish ring I found was particularly beautiful, as was that junk pearl earring. They're both now in my display case at home where they can be admired by everyone.

 

[Sand Swinger]

I use the Deus ll, fast recovery even probably one of the fastest recovery software today.

I'm just used to going low & slow as I've been using my Sovereign exclusively for the last 14 years. Plus, I'm now 14 years older than when I started using the Sov, so going slow works well for my aging muscles, lol.

But I recently picked up a Minelab X-Terra Elite and had an opportunity to try it out last weekend on a "treasure hunt" with 2 of my grandsons. And man, the recovery speed on that detector is leaps & bounds faster than my Sov. So now I have a detector with fast recovery speed, but I'm now older and spent the last 14 years going slow, overlapping my sweeps, so I probably won't even take advantage of the X-Terra's increased recovery speed, unless I have multiple targets close by with some iron mixed in. But I'll still go low & slow, lol.

 

[djackson7348]

^^^Agreed^^^ My Minelab Sovereign Elite, being older, has a slow recovery speed and requires a much slower swing speed than today's digital SMF detectors with lightning-fast recovery. Slower walking & slower swing speeds also increase the odds that you'll hear those deep whisper targets, which is what we all listen for when on the wet & in the water. I don't care as much when I'm on the dry, but when on the wet, I want to hear everything, every last bit of a whisper.

This always kills me, along with the "golfers", that keep their coil 6 - 8 inches off the sand (there goes their depth) and swing their detector like Arnold Palmer. The coil is only over a very narrow slice of sand for maybe a split second, before launching skyward where it's not gonna detect anything. But the coil is so high off the sand to start, that unless there's a rather large and very recent drop, they're probably not gonna hear many targets, lol.

The "golfers" can be amusing to watch but the lack of overlapping swings really bugs me. Well, not really because if I see someone swinging like that, of if I see a "golfer" out on the beach, those are the guys I'm gonna casually follow. But I've seen this on a lot of detecting videos, by experienced guys with tons of detecting videos on their channel. A lot of them start off the video holding their detectors while walking to the location they want to detect. Sidenote: Why aren't they swinging the coil while they're walking to the location? Even if I'm planning to hit the wet & shallow water, I'll start swinging the coil as soon as my feet hit the sand. Why waste a potential opportunity to find a good target or two in the dry while heading towards the location you want to search? But I digress.

These guys are not overlapping their swings but swinging in more of an "S" pattern as they're walking. I've noticed huge gaps in coverage by walking too fast while swinging the coil in this "S" pattern. So IMHO, they're probably only getting about 50% coverage, because they're missing 1/2 the area they're walking over due to not tightly overlapping their coil. But again, no worries, I'll casually follow these guys to get whatever targets that might be lying in the 50% of the area they're missing.

Moral of the story: There might be a bunch of other detectorists on the beach, so to the casual observer, it might look like we have a lot of competition. But from my perspective, from what I've witnessed out on the beach, yeah, there might be a lot of guys swinging away, but larger numbers might not be as big of a competition as one might think. If they're "golfing", walking too fast, not overlapping their sweeps, there's lots of area that they're missing. Experience counts.

In fact, you owe them a thank you getting those big, trashy targets out of the way so you can follow and listen for the deep. old ones.

 

[Sand Swinger]

In fact, you owe them a thank you getting those big, trashy targets out of the way so you can follow and listen for the deep. old ones.

I agree, and if I happen to pull a gold ring out of the sand that they had passed over, and if they stopped while passing by to strike up a conversation and to ask me how I'm doing, I will indeed show them the ring and thank them for walking over it. When they start shaking their heads in disbelief and start muttering how was it that they walked over this same ring but weren't able to detect it, I'll take that as a cry for instructional help so I'll be happy to point out that they missed the ring because they were walking too fast and not overlapping their swings, thereby missing large chunks of area with every sweep. Or maybe they didn't have their detector set up for maximum sensitivity for the area. Maybe it will sink in, and they'll make a correction, but in a lot of cases, most either don't seem to want to improve or they might just be stuck in their ways and will continue doing what they've always been doing. No problemo, I'll try to help them if I can, but if they disregard my assistance, I'll either continue to keep following them around the beach, very casually of course, or I'll make a mental note of the areas they were searching and will head over there once they've left to try other locations.

But I can say this, for me personally, if I was out on a beach and ran into Terry Shannon, or Gary Drayton, and they gave me a tip to improve my swing speed, sensitivity settings, good locations to hunt, or whatever it might be, better believe that I'd want to soak up whatever knowledge & advice they would provide, and I'd be implementing their suggestions right then and there. Guess it all depends on if the guy is out there casually detecting for just entertainment & exercise purposes, versus a serious detectorist looking to pick up any tips or suggestions that could give them an additional edge. Nobody knows everything, there's always something new to learn, and sometimes even newbies can come up with a great tip that I've never heard before. We all can learn from each other, but the key is we having to be willing to try new things, a different way, etc.