30TH REGIMENT OF FOOT- Rev War Pay Dirt!

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Hey guys,

Anyone that has ever seen my dig an early military button knows that these rare relics of our past are my favorite recoveries. As far as military buttons go, the personal nature of a button worn by a soldier or sailor involved with the American Revolution is the top of my list. I have been fortunate over the last 3 years to dig pewter buttons from the 3rd and 19th regiments of foot...curiously both arrived late in Southern campaign in 1781. Each button tells a story and helps to validate endless research and hours spent behind the coil.

Yesterday I hit the road to link up with DownNDirty on a well pounded permission-the site is remote and overgrown, however you just have the feeling while gridding through large iron patch that there could be another relic left over by the British...likely masked and waiting to be saved.

Working with the redheaded stepchild of my detecting arsenal...the XP Deus :laughing7: I left the CTX in the truck, and got to work in the thick iron. For a site that has been pounded, initial signs were promising. Managed to recover a small tombac button, musket ball, and fired round ball.

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For the next 3 hours I had nothing but iron to show for it. Made my way back to Glenn who at this point was 3 hours into sifting. He had scored a bit of pottery, but nothing non-ferrous...yet (see his post). As I worked closer I heard the familiar sound of pewter under the DEUS coil. As I had dug only 3 plugs in 3 hours I was pretty excited. Quickly got down in the dirt, flipped the plug and this is what I saw.

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Heart now thoroughly pounding in my chest, I removed my glove and reached in...

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30th Regiment of Foot cuff button...an incredibly rare button to be found in North America and with its iron loop shank intact.

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The crazy part is that all 3 British regimental buttons I've recovered (3rd, 19th, and 30th) all landed in Charleston in 1781 and departed by 1782. Buttons of the 30th are rarer still given the fact that their short term service in South Carolina's hot climate favored linen clothing with self covered cloth buttons rather than issued woolen uniforms with regimental buttons. Don also mentions that much of the 30th's regimental clothing was destroyed in the baggage lost in July 1781.

Needless to say I am absolutely thrilled with the condition and history this small pewter button represents.

Among the other surface finds was this marked pipe bowl- T D stamped I think-

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Also managed to get a sifting adventure with Stef45 in...who bailed on this weekend's hunt to get married. With a bit of helpful advice from Brad (OutdoorAdv) and Glenn we set off to open up a large pit section of a colonial permission. While non-ferrous targets were not as plentiful this round, we did score a ton of iron and pottery. I was able to reconstruct a few pieces-

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Also managed to sift a bit of furniture hardware and a small buckle.

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On the coast I did score an early unmarked pewter with curious offset shank.

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All in all another incredible weekend that I will certainly remember for years to come. Big thank you to Glenn (DownNDirty) for letting me tag along. Have a great Thanksgiving and as always thank you for looking!

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Thanks IP, coated it liberally with Renaissance wax and buffed it to a dull shine.

That might be ok for the face given the condition, but I don't think that will be enough for the shank. I would use some clear lacquer and paint the back and shank quite well. How it looks is not a big concern compared to the alternative of it possibly falling off, or rusting and leeching into the button. Maybe the elmers glue method would look a bit better, but I have used lacquer on a couple of iron shanks and they have held up for 10 years now with no change.
 
Awesome finds man. That pewter is in amazing shape. Well done!
 
That might be ok for the face given the condition, but I don't think that will be enough for the shank. I would use some clear lacquer and paint the back and shank quite well. How it looks is not a big concern compared to the alternative of it possibly falling off, or rusting and leeching into the button. Maybe the elmers glue method would look a bit better, but I have used lacquer on a couple of iron shanks and they have held up for 10 years now with no change.

Probably good advice, I've been happy with Ren wax on other pewters but none possessed an intact iron shank. Will certainly consider a more permanent solution
 
Amazing condition! Congratulations!
 
Incredible find and condition also buddy. Huge congrats on that beauty. Such a rare combination to find a really tough one that looks so damn good. I'm super happy for you my friend
 
Congrats on the great button and other nice finds. Thanks for a super post
 
Congrats on a spectacular button Jon!

Best to you and your family over the holiday!
 
Incredible find and condition also buddy. Huge congrats on that beauty. Such a rare combination to find a really tough one that looks so damn good. I'm super happy for you my friend

Thanks Abe, always nice when the rare ones survive intact. Pewter buttons seem completely unpredictable, suspect a combination of button composition (lead/tin) and just the right amount of moisture in the soil to keep from becoming brittle. Good news is that as long as these keep appearing there's almost certainly one out there in Maine waiting for your coil :laughing7:
 
Beauty right there...gotta love those Rev War military!! congrats
 
Great find.
You mention soil moisture a couple posts back, I would have assumed that it came from very well drained soil, or the shank would have been long gone.
Not sure if I seen any previously with intact shank. Even the under water found pewters that have great condition on the pewter don't have a shank.
 
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All great finds, but that pewter regimental blows me away! As if the amazing condition of the pewter itself wasn't enough, the iron shank still intact!? Put that one front and center in your collection. Well done, VMI!
 
That's a spectacular example you just dug! The intact iron shank is amazing, and like IP said, it's a wonder that the contact between pewter and iron for 235 years didn't spell catastrophe for that button.
 
Great find.
You mention soil moisture a couple posts back, I would have assumed that it came from very well drained soil, or the shank would have been long gone.
Not sure if I seen any previously with intact shank. Even the under water found pewters that have great condition on the pewter don't have a shank.

Pewter is a curious material-water recoveries seem to result in a thin black crust that perfectly preserves detail while dry inland soil seems to devour them. In this case good drainage (sandy topsoil) provided just the right amount of moisture to prevent drying but not enough to eat the iron shank.
 
All great finds, but that pewter regimental blows me away! As if the amazing condition of the pewter itself wasn't enough, the iron shank still intact!? Put that one front and center in your collection. Well done, VMI!

For sure, looks fantastic next to the 3rd and 19th which also arrived for a short stint of battle in SC before being shipped off to the Caribbean in 1782
 
Thanks Brad, Glenn's rocker sifter is far more efficient and easy on the back than mine...definitely a future project.

I'll have to send you some pics of mine or bring it with me next time we get together. That way you can see if you like the design and what you could do to better suit your needs.

Great find bud!!
 

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