5 rings from a water hunt and button backmark help needed

tnt-hunter

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Last week I got back in the water and worked on one of the freshwater swimming areas I do in the summer. I did this one about a month ago and this time I redid part and did a new section. In 4 hours of swingin the ATPro I found 26 coins with a face value of $2.35, 2 toy cars, a brass casing, a piece of brass chain, a cross necklace, some tabs, a navel stud, a sinker, an earring back, some cheapie earrings, 5 rings and of course foil and bottle caps.

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The rings are mostly kiddie rings. The best one is the middle one and it is only tungsten carbide (about $50 new). The cross and chain are stainless steel. So nothing great, but a fun hunt with lots of action from the fresh water.

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I went back and finished a permission with the Excalibur and managed a few finds. I have already covered most of the yard with the CZ21 and redid those parts and redid the rest at a 90 degree angle to my first gridding. Mostly foil and can slaw, but a few coins including 3 wheaties and a neat looking Police button.

In the 5 hours I swung the Excalibur I managed to find 10 coins with a face value of $0.28, a Pond?s jar with the lid on it, a table spoon, harmonica reed, the base of a lead cowboy or Indian, some brass clips and fasteners, a pin back with the face missing, a small buckle, a Police button, 3 wheaties, some pieces of lead, wire, and a pile of slaw and foil.

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The Police button is my favorite find for this trip. It still has the T bar on the back so it can be removed to wash the garment. I am trying to pin down the age of the button. While searching for info I found lots of different Police buttons, but none like mine. The back mark is WATERBURY BUTTON CO, WATERBURY CT. The company opens in 1812 and still operates today. It is a 2 piece button and from the style of lettering my guess is that it was made in the 1800?s. So that places the range between 1860 and 1899. I?m hoping someone out there can give a more definitive date from the backmark. It is kind of crusty, but I?m afraid cleaning might destroy the button. Any help on dating this button would be appreciated. Thanks.

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The table spoon is a Wm A Rogers silver nickel spoon and from what I can find on line the pattern was made in the 1920?s. I?m not sure what the buckel and clip are from. The buckel is marked SOLID and the clip has G & CO on it. It looks like there should be something in front of the G but I can?t make it out. The other item was used on a strap or belt to adjust length, but I have not seen one like it before. It has 2 pins sticking out of the back that held something. Help with this ID would also be appreciated.

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My last trip this week was to a set of ball fields in a town down the road. I only had 3 hours to play at this one because we are going away and I had other obligations. These fields usually produce mostly clad and that is how it went. 59 coins with a face value of $5.77, a coal mine chit and a brass clock frame. The chit is a number 61 that has been recycled. It was a number 4 but they used 2 zeros to obliterate the 4 and reuse the chit.

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No silver or gold this week, a fair amount of clad and enough interesting finds to keep me going. This week we are going back to our honeymoon spot for out 50th anniversary and then we will spend 3 nights at Virginia Beach. My wife is a real sport and has promised to let me get detecting time in at the beach. Of course she knows if I get lucky and find some nice jewelry she always gets first pick of anything she wants and that is the way it should be. Thanks for looking, stay safe and may your coil lead you to good things.
 

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lenmac65

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Congratulations on the nice finds. I think the buckle stamped SOLID is a pants or trouser waist adjuster/tightener buckle . I found something similar marked SOLIDE and Paris, and I think that is what it was. I think the clip might be hosiery related.
 

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Nice Hunting and Finds!!! Congrats!!!!
 

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Great stuff...! :icon_thumright:
There are several websites to visit about buttons.
Those two-piece ones were made in 1800's....but, you know that already....!
Keep diggin'!
 

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That police button is awesome!! Thanks!!
 

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Congrats on your water hunts....so nice to get in this time of year !!
 

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As its title implies, the best book for time-dating American military buttons by their backmark is "American Military Button Makers And Dealers; Their Backmarks & Dates" by McGuinn & Bazelon. That book helpfully includes about 200 closeup photos of backmarks (with their dates), to show how even a change in Abbreviation from "Conn" to "CT" can make an important difference in the button's time-dating. The book shows your EXACT Waterbury backmark and says it dates from 1870-90.
 

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As its title implies, the best book for time-dating American military buttons by their backmark is "American Military Button Makers And Dealers; Their Backmarks & Dates" by McGuinn & Bazelon. That book helpfully includes about 200 closeup photos of backmarks (with their dates), to show how even a change in Abbreviation from "Conn" to "CT" can make an important difference in the button's time-dating. The book shows your EXACT Waterbury backmark and says it dates from 1870-90.
Definitely a "MUST HAVE" book. I bought my copy from William Leigh years ago.
It will help you go from the guy asking the questions, to the guy giving the answers :laughing7:
 

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As its title implies, the best book for time-dating American military buttons by their backmark is "American Military Button Makers And Dealers; Their Backmarks & Dates" by McGuinn & Bazelon. That book helpfully includes about 200 closeup photos of backmarks (with their dates), to show how even a change in Abbreviation from "Conn" to "CT" can make an important difference in the button's time-dating. The book shows your EXACT Waterbury backmark and says it dates from 1870-90.

Definitely a "MUST HAVE" book. I bought my copy from William Leigh years ago.
It will help you go from the guy asking the questions, to the guy giving the answers :laughing7:

Thank you for the precise answer and I will have to try and get a copy of that book. As always your help is great appreciated guys. Stay safe, good luck and keep swingin.
 

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