After 15th Episode of Season 12.... Still any believers...?

[SSR]

how do you know it all ? nobody knows what happened on oak island but YOU..... do who dug the tunnels ? who built the roads and most of all.....WHY explain yourself....

Knowing is extremely limited. We are limited by what is at our disposal. The OI stories do no deal in even that. They would want you to close your eyes to what little we can still know that is sufficient enough to discredit even the origin stories. There are no flood tunnels. You are stuck in a fictitious narrative.

The main dividing road and lot boundaries which all the mystery features relate to date to 1762. Some of the earliest Smith cove works date to 1753-59. We know who is responsible and when that was done. We know the English colonial period there starts in 1763. We know more than enough to discredit the origin accounts of 1795. Those alleged events are lacking in being based in reality. It takes only a bit of knowing to do that, not perfect knowledge. It's so small a body of knowledge that there is no excuse for you to not be aware of it.

The backassward idea that holes in the knowledge of absolutely everything that happened in colonial times are sufficient to protect the stories from scrutiny is the Graham Hancock approach to safeguarding fiction.

Pre English, there were French colonials in that region since 1632. Before that it was seasonal grounds for a native population. Those are things to know. Commercial activity on OI predates 1795, so all the pre searcher horseshit that is magnified is exploiting your lack of knowledge about it. Casper Wollenhaupt, owner of lot 18 prior to 1795, was a prominent German merchant from nearby Lunenburg. He was an importer of textiles and various wares. The Smith's Cove end of the island was the working end of that island.

Is all you know perhaps given to you by biased self deluded writers of fiction? I know of people who have library shelves full of that stuff.

 

[3cylbill]

Knowing is extremely limited. We are limited by what is at our disposal. The OI stories do no deal in even that. They would want you to close your eyes to what little we can sill know that is sufficient enough to discredit even the origin stories. There are no flood tunnels. You are suck in a fictitious narrative.

The main dividing road and lot boundaries which all the mystery features relate to date to 1762. Some of the earliest Smith cove works date to 1753-59. We know who is responsible and when that was done. We know the English colonial period there starts in 1763. We know more than enough to discredit the origin accounts of 1795. Those alleged events are lacking in being based in reality. It takes only a bit of knowing to do that, not perfect knowledge. It's so small a body of knowledge that there is no excuse for you to not be aware of it.

The backassward idea that holes in the knowledge of absolutely everything that happened in colonial times are sufficient to protect the stories from scrutiny is the Graham Hancock approach to safeguarding fiction.

Pre English, there were French colonials in that region since 1632. Before that it was seasonal grounds for a native population. Those are things to know. Commercial activity on OI predates 1795, so all the pre searcher horseshit that is magnified is exploiting your lack of knowledge about it. Casper Wollenhaupt, owner of lot 18 prior to 1795, was a prominent German merchant from nearby Lunenburg. He was an importer of textiles and various wares. The Smith's Cove end of the island was the working end of that island.

Is all you know perhaps given to you by biased self deluded writers of fiction? I know if people who have library shelves full of that stuff.

i am mistaken you know it all . i bet you have a cave full of treasure by now

 

[sgtfda]

Duh! It's a scripted reality TV show. They won't find a thing. It complicates things for the production company.

 

[Limitool]

Anybody believe they'll try and squeeze another year out of it...?

 

[releventchair]

 

[GravelTeeth]

Duh! It's a scripted reality TV show. They won't find a thing. It complicates things for the production company.

<sigh> Round and around we go.

So, sgtfda, what's your evidence that it's scripted? All others challenged so far have come up with exactly nada.

--GT

 

[GravelTeeth]

Anybody believe they'll try and squeeze another year out of it...?

Yes, absolutely. For one thing, as another member pointed out recently, the show is still tops for that channel, so even if by some stretch of the imagination the Laginas pulled out of their cooperation with A&E, I betcha there'd be at least one more "unauthorized" season produced ... after all, somewhere between a third and a half of any given episode is composed of CGI illustrative clips and historical re-enactment footage, without the cast "talent" on screen. Not to mention the enormous amounts of footage with the cast that doesn't get used but is still in the archive.

Seeing as how there's just the one episode left this season (and judging from the preview), I don't think there's any scenario where they decide to wrap up and call it quits for this syndicate and work that into the hour. The only path that would leave is for them to quietly quit over the hiatus and not have the show acknowledge it, and the series just not ever show up again? I don't see it. Plus with all filming already in the can for the season months ago, word of any major shift in the production would've probably already leaked to the entertainment press.

--GT

 

[Limitool]

<sigh> Round and around we go.

So, sgtfda, what's your evidence that it's scripted? All others challenged so far have come up with exactly nada.

--GT

That's seems to be the ongoing theme with everything about oak island. For 200+ years... NADA..!

 

[Limitool]

Yes, absolutely.

--GT

Well if so... what's left to dig up? The entire swamp for some reason...?

 

[GravelTeeth]

Well if so... what's left to dig up? The entire swamp for some reason...?

Yes. Although I don't recall where I read it, one source said the tide level has risen some predictable amount over the centuries, and the target dates of 17th and 18th centuries for the origins of the Money Pit and other island works would have had in the neighborhood of three or four feet lower tides than today. So there's potentially lots to discover both at the coasts and in the swamp.

Also the lot five archaeological work is progressing apace. Also I think there was a well near the south west coast somewhere? That only got a preliminary treatment. The Garden Shaft could be revisited, if they can finally come up with a reasonable plan to stanch the flow of water encroachment (the bane of all the syndicates). And let's not forget the fabled "big dig", strip mine style, for the whole Money Pit area, an idea that's been pitched since the mid twentieth century, although it seems rather unlikely that they would get the all the necessary permissions to even start that.

A lack of targets is low on my list of reasons they would stop the show.

--GT

 

[GravelTeeth]

It's so small a body of knowledge that there is no excuse for you to not be aware of it.

And yet in four+ paragraphs you've cited not a single source. You can only fall back on that maxim about the horse if you actually lead it to the water. How are we supposed to peer-review your work if you don't document your methods? I, for one, would like to read up more about your implication that Smith's Cove was known to be a port of sorts. It's great when we can find our own material through individual effort, but as you yourself acknowledge the amount of things written on the subject of Oak Island and the history of Nova Scotia is voluminous to say the least ... it could take a lifetime of study before we finally happen across the same sources that led you to your certainties.

--GT

 

[Spanish Spinach]

You’re all such defeatists... You saw it, just like everyone else... that golden object shining at the bottom of the well... and that stone, engraved with an inscription clearly left by the Templars before they became Freemasons, which links directly to all kinds of similar carvings in Italy, France, England...


I mean, come on — a vertical line crossing a horizontal one? That’s not something you just make up! That can’t be a coincidence!


And when you realize that in a church in Portugal, Jesus Christ is literally depicted on what is the most essential symbol of Christianity — the Cross — and that the cross is exactly this symbol of a vertical line intersecting a horizontal one...


Good Lord!!! That’s evidence. Can’t you see?


Everything is connected... but if you don’t open your eyes, you’ll never understand.


So of course there’s going to be a new season.
There’s a real mystery here — and I can feel it, we’re this close to uncovering it now that 250,000,000,000 tons of wood have been removed.

And beneath it all?
There’s at least that much gold hidden away...

 

[SSR]

You’re all such defeatists... You saw it, just like everyone else... that golden object shining at the bottom of the well... and that stone, engraved with an inscription clearly left by the Templars before they became Freemasons, which links directly to all kinds of similar carvings in Italy, France, England...


I mean, come on — a vertical line crossing a horizontal one? That’s not something you just make up! That can’t be a coincidence!


And when you realize that in a church in Portugal, Jesus Christ is literally depicted on what is the most essential symbol of Christianity — the Cross — and that the cross is exactly this symbol of a vertical line intersecting a horizontal one...


Good Lord!!! That’s evidence. Can’t you see?


Everything is connected... but if you don’t open your eyes, you’ll never understand.

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So of course there’s going to be a new season.
There’s a real mystery here — and I can feel it, we’re this close to uncovering it now that 250,000,000,000 tons of wood have been removed.

And beneath it all?
There’s at least that much gold hidden away...

It's the blueprint for the detail in the symbolically loaded Abrahamic religions they borrow the easily recognizable symbolic detail from, so monkey see monkey do, I guess.

Probably start with a point, draw a circle, intersect it with a second in 2 points, observe the two 3 sided equilateral triangle formed using the centers, notice the similarity of the overlapping shape to the body of the fish, depict its aspect ratio as cross, calculate it to be in proportion 265:153 and notice that it is the square root of 3. Notice that your initial circle fits within a square, define the half square and drop a holy arc from it onto the centerline of your Vesica and notice that you have drawn the side of a golden rectangle which contains in it a uniquely powerful proportion (1.618:1) that is given by the infinitely tending ratio of consecutive terms in a sequence whose neighboring terms simply add up. Deduce that ratio is just the length of a line segment made from the extended shoulder of a pentagon down to its baseline. Observe primitively that the pentagon houses a star. Notice that a new star had appeared in 1600 near the intersection of prominent celestial cross that was located atop a navigable triangle of stars, and that the stem of the cross bisected the triangle and functioned as a handy pointer. You'd have a crude outline of an origin for the signaling of a point in Mahone Bay, NS. Pick an island, and go about trying to show that what is is above is as below. Make it look like a fulfilled prophecy on both ends. Use all the same motifs and place them into a regularly surveyed island in such a way that undeniable geometry suggests a secret plan, and that a plan implies a desired goal for a planner which can be potentially deduced by studying the plan.

To be fair, the Laginas took a wrong turn pretty early on. They have worked back from an idea of material treasure and are trying to bridge a cross symbol and treasure with Templars, making a mess of the empiric quality of the suggestions. Gold and Silver are in fact the symbolic names of the Pythagorean theorem and the Golden ratio, as per Johannes Kepler (aka God's own astronomer). Focusing on OI in an empiric fashion in regards to where it's located will allow you to connect the dots and be very disappointed that you sunk a fortune in money and time ignoring the obvious links.

It does all start with connecting the dots if you go look into Iamblichus' "theology of arithmetic". I could no agree more with you about that simple reality. The funny thing, as ridiculous as it seems, is that these are the rather simplistic beginnings of our journey towards empiric science. It's a historical oddity that does not work as well today to work back from where we are (dealing with bastardized stories) to find where we came from. Symbolically working back allows for huge errors in interpretation. Some will think the world was influenced by things and events it was not by starting from the wrong premise.

 

[autofull]

me/ im done with it.

 

[Limitool]

me/ im done with it.

Yea it's not like they left you "on the edge of your seat" with anything important or pending. And there certainly wasn't anything found in this past season (or any) that gives even a bit of hope there will be.