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Well, no weapons yet. But the good news is, I know where to look for them now. I have about 50 lbs of shrapnel in the garage(seriously), and left a lot sitting on tree stumps in the woods to mark my path. Some of the pieces are about a foot long! I am not talking about just frag grenade pieces, im talking HEAVY ARTY PIECES! The place was hit really really hard by arty. I found the remains of a motar tube, but I didn't take picts of it yesterday. I was in a hurry to find where the weapons cache was located. I will go back out there and hunt around it some more. After a lot of hunting yesterday, I found a LOT of shrapnel, 2 mine fuses, a hatch? that looks like it was on the side of a turret where you would eject your empty shells out of (don't quote me on that though, still researching). I didn't find many bullets out in this area. A few shell casings, but thats it. All the fighting positions I found had no bullet casings, or bullets in them. But just about every one of them had a grenade fragment in them, or some HE shrapnel. So they must of retreated elsewhere when it started to come down.

Today, my friend and I found some really good stuff. We located where all the stuff was buried, blown up, etc. Some of the stuff is really buried in some muddy water, so it is preserved nicely. I pulled out a few bullets that have no rust on them at all! We found 2 anti tank round warheads(they are solid), the one that is kind of shorter than the other weighs 30 lbs!!! The longer one looks kind of squished, and the detonator it had in the nose was taken out. I found 4 large steel shell casings, and I bought 2 home (the smaller on is in the picture, the other one is down in the car still). We also found parts off a anti tank gun, some bottoms of large shell casings where the thinner metal rusted away, and some nice bullets. I hope to do some more digging when I have time and the weather is nice. The buried guns are out there, and I know where to look :) Hopefully, they are as preserved as the stuff we pulled out today. The warheads aren't dangerous. They are solid, like a solid cannonball. If I forget to add anything, I will add it later. I am going to build an electrolysis machine this weekend, so my finds should clean up a lot better (and it will make the wife happier since I am moving my operation into the garage, rather than the kitchen) Thanks for looking!

pict1: all the finds (minus the shrapnel). You can see that tank turret hatch thing on the right hand side. It has holes going around it.
pict2: 2 mine fuses, they have a bakelight shaft, and the tops have the pins in them still. They are kind of rusty :(
pict3: a close up of the 2 warheads, one smaller sized casing, and the 2 bottoms of casings that rotted away
pict4: close up of the shells themselves. The one on the left weighs 30 lbs!!!

Enjoy :)
 

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I meant look out for those bugs :D
 
You might want to use a long lead when you hook up ordnance to an electric current for your electrolysis.
 

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I would put those things back in the ground...very deep...
And I would stop digging where you are digging. Where there are mine fuses, there are mines.
 
That stuff is really cool- and a tangible piece of history. I wish I could go out and find stuff like that- thanks for sharing with us!
 
Really cool stuff and a nice read. I am sure you know what you are doing, but I agree......Please be careful. Good luck out there.

You better be checking in once a day at least so we know you are ok.
 
first of all, there are no mines. I found these right behind a fishing club house, close to a kids play ground. I doubt they would put a playground there if they weren't sure about mines.

Noway am I going to put an electric current to my wearheads! I am going to clean them up a bit, and see whats on the back of them. If they are as "unsafe" as everyone thinks they are, and I make sure, then of course I will bury them. If not, they are going in my case with my other stuff :)

I didn't find much today. We did more test digs in the area. I did find some large shell casings. I got all my gear to make an electrolysis machine so I can test it out on my shrapnel.

I need to take pictures of my grenade before I put it back in the ground. I was thinking of playing catch with it first, then storing it next to our oil tanks in the garage....


Just kidding :p

I am going to take a picture of it. Its unfortunate I could not get it diffused, since its in good shape, But that is something I am not going to mess with.

There is a lot of good stuff out there. If i stop digging there, i might as well stop digging in europe period. you always run the risk of finding something dangerous. But, im after the good stuff, and I do it safely.
 
Great Viper! your now giving lots of people the gitters on the great ww2 relics your digging bud !! LOL, Talk to you soon!! I HOPE!!!
 
viper771 said:
first of all, there are no mines. I found these right behind a fishing club house, close to a kids play ground. I doubt they would put a playground there if they weren't sure about mines.

Famous last words ;D

I think you can safely assume that a lot of people safely assume there's no bombs under their building. Not trying to teach you how to suck eggs but:

"Brothels along Hamburg's famous Reeperbahn had to be evacuated when construction workers dug up a 277 pound WWII bomb."

"Archaeologists investigating a suspected ancient settlement site have uncovered a cylinder believed to be an unexploded World War II bomb."

"Hundreds of people have returned to their homes after being forced to leave when an unexploded bomb was found at a new housing development in Northampton."

"a 550-pound British bomb was plucked in 2002 from beneath the lower ring of seats during renovation work at Berlin's Olympic Stadium, where the World Cup soccer final was played this July."

Take care :)
 
since im getting so much flak from everyone, i will prob stop posting my finds. :(
 
viper771 said:
since im getting so much flak from everyone, i will prob stop posting my finds. :(

Viper,

Please don't take the comments of myself and others as flak. We just don't want to see you injured or worse. Don't stop posting your finds because of us. We all enjoy reading about your adventures there and would like to hear more. I have said my piece, offered my advice, and will now step away from the lectern.

HH
 
Hey Viper,

I was assigned to a Pershing Missile unit when I was stationed there 79 - 82, be sure to let me know if find one of those. Sure wish I had been aware of MD when I was there. Very nice finds.

Cruiter
 
I do appreciate everyones concern, please don't get me wrong on that :) I never said I was going to try to disarm anything, or mess with anything unsafe. At least you guys weren't calling me a "criminal" like on this other website. I don't want others getting hurt out here either. Thats why i reseach everything as much as possible, and take my time. I am going to try another area this week and take pictures of the landscape. There are still dragons teeth out there and it would be cool to check them out :)
 
Hey! Super great finds viper!

Those old shell casings are wonderful finds. I have one in my office that was dug out of a foxhole in the area of the Ardennes Offensive (Battle of the Bulge).

Badger
 
Please be careful out there, otherwise, good stuff man.
 

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Great finds Viper.... That is one masive shell you have there....... Harry, Northampton is where I was born ;D

God bless
Peter
 
Hey man. I don't think there is anything criminal about you detecting a WWII battlefield, and I'm not criticizing you for doing it. I just don't want to see a news report on BBC or CNN about a MDer that stepped on or dug up a mine/round/claymore/mortar and lost an arm/leg/head (ie you). We are all just showing some concern about your safety. I wasn't thinking about what happens because you don't know what you're doing (because anyone crazy enough to handle a discharged, undetonated, artillary round must know what they are doing). I was thinking what if you hit, or the soil your digging pushed enough on one of those rounds just right when your digging it? Be careful and happy hunting.
 
thats the best way to find these things, keep sticking your shovel into the ground really hard until you hear a metallic "ding" sound.. stick your hand in, fish around, and pull er out ;D

im kidding. Ive left a lot of dangerous stuff buried out in the woods. These 2 rounds weren't just fired and hit into soft mud. There were piles and piles of these placed in the area after the war, and blown up! The kinda smashed looking one has no nose cone (but a hole where one would of gone), and nothing in the rear (its all smashed and torn). The other one is in better shape, but the rear is all torn up, or where a tracer of fuse would be.

I was more worried about the grenade i found out there a few mths ago. I need to take picts of it still :) but there is no way im keeping a live grenade!!!!!!! NO WAY would i keep that thing! just to be clear.
 
Post it to me lol

I'm teasing viper, you know what your doing and the people in your local area should sleep better at night knowing when they go for a walk in the bush their not going to suddenly blow up.

Metal Detectors Save Lifes!
 

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