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Aligator Point Florida

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As I have stated in another post I have never hunted the beach before. I will be spending a long weekend on Aligator Point, Florida and am currious if anyone has hunted this area before. It is South of Tallahassee. Any rules I need to know about, etc. etc. etc. Any and all help would be appreciated.

Keith
Redstone Arsenal, AL

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I've never been there but after reading a little about the place it sounds great and I just might have to visit there myself this summer.I can only tell you what I know as far as the laws in general for beach detecting,that is,all beaches are legal to detect including the beaches in state parks.However, state park beach detecting is up to the park managers own discretion so you must obtain permission first.Have fun and good luck.
 
Thanks diggummup, I believe the area is all privatly owned, or at least the place we are staying is privatly owned. Do you know if land ownership goes all the way to the water, or are the beaches public domain unless it's in a park? I'm kind of thinking about the rules for river and creek beds that cross private property. In most states it's legel to fish in any river or creek as long as you stay in the natural creek channel and don't cross private property to get to it. Thanks for the information.
 
It is my understanding that there are no private beaches in Florida. I am going to Vero Beach in June and I asked these questions earlier in the year. This is what I was told. Since I am going to be hunting the Treasure Coast I was told that I could hunt from the toe of the dune to the low tide line. Not in the water or in the dunes. I'm sorry that I do not know about where you hunt but I do know that I was told that there are no private beaches in Florida. I've been told that people will tell you to leave but if you contact the authorities they will explain this. Good Luck!

Eli Stepp
 
outdoorsup said:
I'm kind of thinking about the rules for river and creek beds that cross private property. In most states it's legel to fish in any river or creek as long as you stay in the natural creek channel and don't cross private property to get to it. Thanks for the information.
Here's the law that concerns rivers and other submerged lands too.This mainly deals with indian artifacts,however any find older than 50 years old is considered a "historical artifact."--------------You can fish all you want,just don't get caught collecting artifacts of any kind. Beach detecting is legal from the toe of the dunes to the mean low tide line.You should be fine in the water too,up there.




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Since the termination of the Florida Isolated Finds Program this is the new revisions:

The 2006 Florida Statutes

Title XVIII
PUBLIC LANDS AND PROPERTY Chapter 267
HISTORICAL RESOURCES View Entire Chapter

267.13 Prohibited practices; penalties.--

(1)(a) Any person who by means other than excavation either conducts archaeological field investigations on, or removes or attempts to remove, or defaces, destroys, or otherwise alters any archaeological site or specimen located upon, any land owned or controlled by the state or within the boundaries of a designated state archaeological landmark or landmark zone, except in the course of activities pursued under the authority of a permit or under procedures relating to accredited institutions granted by the division, commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083, and, in addition, shall forfeit to the state all specimens, objects, and materials collected, together with all photographs and records relating to such material.

(b) Any person who by means of excavation either conducts archaeological field investigations on, or removes or attempts to remove, or defaces, destroys, or otherwise alters any archaeological site or specimen located upon, any land owned or controlled by the state or within the boundaries of a designated state archaeological landmark or landmark zone, except in the course of activities pursued under the authority of a permit or under procedures relating to accredited institutions granted by the division, commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, and any vehicle or equipment of any person used in connection with the violation is subject to forfeiture to the state if it is determined by any court of law that the vehicle or equipment was involved in the violation. Such person shall forfeit to the state all specimens, objects, and materials collected or excavated, together with all photographs and records relating to such material. The court may also order the defendant to make restitution to the state for the archaeological or commercial value and cost of restoration and repair as defined in subsection (4).

(c) Any person who offers for sale or exchange any object with knowledge that it has previously been collected or excavated in violation of any of the terms of ss. 267.11-267.14, or who procures, counsels, solicits, or employs any other person to violate any prohibition contained in ss. 267.11-267.14 or to sell, purchase, exchange, transport, receive, or offer to sell, purchase, or exchange any archaeological resource excavated or removed from any land owned or controlled by the state or within the boundaries of a designated state archaeological landmark or landmark zone, except with the express consent of the division, commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, and any vehicle or equipment of any person used in connection with the violation is subject to forfeiture to the state if it is determined by any court of law that such vehicle or equipment was involved in the violation. All specimens, objects, and material collected or excavated, together with all photographs and records relating to such material, shall be forfeited to the state. The court may also order the defendant to make restitution to the state for the archaeological or commercial value and cost of restoration and repair as defined in subsection (4).

(2)(a) The division may institute an administrative proceeding to impose an administrative fine of not more than $500 a day on any person or business organization that, without written permission of the division, explores for, salvages, or excavates treasure trove, artifacts, sunken or abandoned ships, or other objects having historical or archaeological value located on state-owned or state-controlled lands, including state sovereignty submerged lands.

(b) The division shall institute an administrative proceeding by serving written notice of a violation by certified mail upon the alleged violator. The notice shall specify the law or rule allegedly violated and the facts upon which the allegation is based. The notice shall also specify the amount of the administrative fine sought by the division. The fine shall not become due until after service of notice and an administrative hearing. However, the alleged violator shall have 20 days from service of notice to request an administrative hearing. Failure to respond within that time shall constitute a waiver, and the fine shall become due without a hearing.

(c) The division may enter its judgment for the amount of the administrative penalty imposed in a court of competent jurisdiction, pursuant to s. 120.69. The judgment may be enforced as any other judgment.

(d) The division may apply to a court of competent jurisdiction for injunctive relief against any person or business organization that explores for, salvages, or excavates treasure trove, artifacts, sunken or abandoned ships, or other objects having historical or archaeological value located on state-owned or state-controlled land, including state sovereignty submerged land, without the written permission of the division.

(e) The division shall adopt rules pursuant to ss. 120.536(1) and 120.54 to implement the provisions of this section.

(3) Any person who:

(a) Reproduces, retouches, reworks, or forges any archaeological or historical object originating from an archaeological site as designated by ss. 267.11-267.14 and deriving its principal value from its antiquity or makes any such object, whether a copy or not; or

(b) Falsely labels, describes, identifies, or offers for sale or exchange any object with intent to represent the same to be an original and genuine archaeological or historical specimen,

commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

(4) DETERMINATION OF ARCHAEOLOGICAL OR COMMERCIAL VALUE AND COST OF RESTORATION AND REPAIR.--

(a) Archaeological value.--For purposes of this section, the archaeological value of any archaeological resource involved in a violation of the prohibitions in ss. 267.11-267.14 or conditions of a permit issued pursuant to ss. 267.11-267.14 shall be the value of the data associated with the archaeological resource. This value shall be appraised in terms of the costs of the retrieval of the scientific information which would have been obtainable prior to the violation. These costs may include, but need not be limited to, the cost of preparing a research design, conducting field work, carrying out laboratory analysis, and preparing reports as would be necessary to realize the information potential.

(b) Commercial value.--For purposes of this section, the commercial value of any archaeological resource involved in a violation of the prohibitions in ss. 267.11-267.14 or conditions of a permit issued pursuant to ss. 267.11-267.14 shall be its fair market value. Where the violation has resulted in damage to the archaeological resource, the fair market value should be determined using the condition of the archaeological resource prior to the violation, to the extent that its prior condition can be ascertained.

(c) Cost of restoration and repair.--For purposes of this section, the cost of restoration and repair of archaeological resources damaged as a result of a violation of prohibitions or conditions pursuant to this section shall be the sum of the costs already incurred for emergency restoration or repair work, plus those costs projected to be necessary to complete restoration and repair, which may include, but need not be limited to, the costs of the following:

1. Reconstruction of the archaeological resource.

2. Stabilization of the archaeological resource.

3. Ground contour reconstruction and surface stabilization.

4. Research necessary to carry out reconstruction or stabilization.

5. Physical barriers or other protective devices, necessitated by the disturbance of the archaeological resource, to protect it from further disturbance.

6. Examination and analysis of the archaeological resource, including recording remaining archaeological information, where necessitated by disturbance, in order to salvage remaining values which cannot be otherwise conserved.

7. Reinterment of human remains in accordance with religious custom and state, local, or tribal law, where appropriate, as determined by the land manager.

8. Preparation of reports relating to any of the activities described in this paragraph.






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