anchor button ID help

[gormer]

I purchased this for a relative's history classroom display. I was told this was Albert's Navy 17, but I don't know what that means. Any guesses from people who might know? Thanks!

 

Amazon Forum Fav 👍

Agony and Death on a Gold Rush Steamer: The Disastrous Sinking of the Side-Wheeler Yankee Blade - Grab it through Amazon!

[Bigcypresshunter]

These are very tough to ID because they made so many for Navy, Merchant Marines and for fashion. If its an iron back, I would say its a fashion button. I hope you didnt pay much for it because its in very bad condition. We were just discussing these buttons here. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,308887.0.html
British Navy here: http://www.colchestertreasurehunting.co.uk/navy buttons.htm

BTW Welcome to TN.

 

[gormer]

I think I might have paid all of $1--I'm no collector, but my mother-in-law is a history teacher and loves "hands on" stuff like this for her classroom. We prefer things beat up before the kiddos get to them, actually! Thanks for the link to the discussion!

 

[CRUSADER]

Yeah, looking at the condition it seems to be another post 1900 blazer button

 

[kyphote]

Yeah, looking at the condition it seems to be another post 1900 blazer button

Crusader: Curious as to what tip-offs may have led you to a post-1900s conclusion? Looks earlier to me and I'm not basing that on condition.

 

[CRUSADER]

Yeah, looking at the condition it seems to be another post 1900 blazer button

Crusader: Curious as to what tip-offs may have led you to a post-1900s conclusion? Looks earlier to me and I'm not basing that on condition.

When you find a lot you just get to know the look & feel, if that makes sense. Look through these for military types:
http://www.colchestertreasurehunting.co.uk/navy buttons.htm

Generally not a good idea to have a steel back on the salty sea, they made them pretty hard wearing & brass backs mostly.

 

[vayank54]

I have to agree with the others. A fashion or blazer button. Like Cru said when you've seen enough of them you just know.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Its hard to find a match because of the poor condition but heres an example of a similar fashion anchor button. The rusted back ups the odds thats what it is.
http://www.waterburybutton.com/cart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=0&idproduct=23480

 

[gormer]

What would the Albert's Navy 17 be? I'm guessing some kind of identification or company? (sorry--quite new to all of this!) Thanks for all of your input.

 

[CRUSADER]

What would the Albert's Navy 17 be? I'm guessing some kind of identification or company? (sorry--quite new to all of this!) Thanks for all of your input.

Albert's is a button book. So it was sold as 'Navy 17' reference in the book. I don't have the book but I'm guessing they got it wrong

 

[Don in SJ]

It does not match any of the shown varieties of a NA-17 in Albert's book. I'm on board with it being non NAVAL blazer type button.

Don

 

[CRUSADER]

It does not match any of the shown varieties of a NA-17 in Albert's book. I'm on board with it being nonfatal blazer type button.

Don

Theres the answer. Sometimes I'm good at guessing

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Its a fouled anchor design. "The foul anchor device itself was first recorded in use in the seal of the Lord High Admiral of Scotland in 1402. It was subsequently adopted in the Admiralty seal and by a large number of navies throughout the world. The rope 'fouling' has no specific twist and may be deemed to be correct however it fits around the anchor."
Because it is iron backed, it is most likely a fashion button made with the fouled anchor navy motiff.