Ancient Ring Found Today

[goldnow]

In the foot hills of the Alps in Italy, I found today this ring at around 9 inches in a forest near our home. At first, it gave me no thrill, as it looked cheap, stoneless, and no real style. At home, I gave it a rinse and the "diamond" appears, a few tender touches with a toothpick reveals gold plating, and after a few more dabs a design appears.

The "stone/glass(?)" is faceted, though with some chips out of the top. The metal looks to be bronze, but not positive, Not copper, not precious for sure.

Can anybody date this sweet little ring?..She can be anything from Roman to Victorian.

 

[gemee]

I'm with Crusader, in this being 1890's. The GLASS stone was maybe or maybe not foiled back when it was new, and the missing stones are most probably small rhinestones. You guys are making this FAR older than it actually is.
I have dealt in vintage and antique jewelry for 35 years, and the style and construction screams 1890-1910.

 

[goldnow]

I'm with Crusader, in this being 1890's. The GLASS stone was maybe or maybe not foiled back when it was new, and the missing stones are most probably small rhinestones. You guys are making this FAR older than it actually is.
I have dealt in vintage and antique jewelry for 35 years, and the style and construction screams 1890-1910.

All I can find that reasonably dates the style is Rennasiance. Could you link me to any site or pictures, or keywords to Google the era you attribute it to? Of course, you might be right, and probably are, but am looking for some pictures.

 

[umrgolf]

Nice ring goldnow

 

[taropatch]

Very nice find. Let us know further information if you have an expert look at it.

 

[HCW]

I'm with Crusader, in this being 1890's. The GLASS stone was maybe or maybe not foiled back when it was new, and the missing stones are most probably small rhinestones. You guys are making this FAR older than it actually is.
I have dealt in vintage and antique jewelry for 35 years, and the style and construction screams 1890-1910.

I agree. It looks too finely made too be much earlier.

 

[Moonshadow]

Definitely collection worthy! Very cool.....

HH,
Moon

 

[CRUSADER]

I'm with Crusader, in this being 1890's. The GLASS stone was maybe or maybe not foiled back when it was new, and the missing stones are most probably small rhinestones. You guys are making this FAR older than it actually is.
I have dealt in vintage and antique jewelry for 35 years, and the style and construction screams 1890-1910.

Goldnow,
Your time is close, the finds are flowing, you have ancient ground to hunt, so its just a matter of how much time your willing to sacrifice in hunting

 

[goldnow]

I'm with Crusader, in this being 1890's. The GLASS stone was maybe or maybe not foiled back when it was new, and the missing stones are most probably small rhinestones. You guys are making this FAR older than it actually is.
I have dealt in vintage and antique jewelry for 35 years, and the style and construction screams 1890-1910.

Goldnow,
Your time is close, the finds are flowing, you have ancient ground to hunt, so its just a matter of how much time your wiling to sacrifice in hunting

Yes, you are right. I remember one thing you said a few months back, where you didn't know what you were doing wrong before, but all of a sudden the right pieces are showing up. I took this as a good lesson, so I decided to practice on the available land around me, before I hit some very impressive possible great producing spots, so I wouldn't waste my time. I have notice a 100% increase in finds to junk, and have repeated the same land and have come up with keepers everyday, including today, I overlooked the earlier times. I've learned to slow down and overlap better, and relax in to it. I was rushing a little in the beginning. Remember I only started in August in Earnest on the land. Also, I've been lining up permissions, as you made clear to me are the hardest and most important to find the good finds. I have just gotten permission on around 5 acres of land, that includes circa 1500 houses/outbuildings, pasture land, and forest. The Valley below though is where the real history was made, from Celtic to WWII. Even Hannibal walked through our valley. Hoping for some petrified elephant dung. This weekend we are going to give it a try and see if all those shy hiding Roman and Celtic gold coins want a new owner..... I'm getting my cleaning methods down, and bookmarking as many reference sites as I run across, too.

In this hobby, there are actually three hunts.;.....The Land, the Booty, and the Google.

 

[allen]

I knew as knowledgeable as Crusader is
that he would be able to help you out.

 

[Jobey1]

They should put dates on everything for us THers!

 

[CRUSADER]

I'm with Crusader, in this being 1890's. The GLASS stone was maybe or maybe not foiled back when it was new, and the missing stones are most probably small rhinestones. You guys are making this FAR older than it actually is.
I have dealt in vintage and antique jewelry for 35 years, and the style and construction screams 1890-1910.

Goldnow,
Your time is close, the finds are flowing, you have ancient ground to hunt, so its just a matter of how much time your wiling to sacrifice in hunting

Yes, you are right. I remember one thing you said a few months back, where you didn't know what you were doing wrong before, but all of a sudden the right pieces are showing up. I took this as a good lesson, so I decided to practice on the available land around me, before I hit some very impressive possible great producing spots, so I wouldn't waste my time. I have notice a 100% increase in finds to junk, and have repeated the same land and have come up with keepers everyday, including today, I overlooked the earlier times. I've learned to slow down and overlap better, and relax in to it. I was rushing a little in the beginning. Remember I only started in August in Earnest on the land. Also, I've been lining up permissions, as you made clear to me are the hardest and most important to find the good finds. I have just gotten permission on around 5 acres of land, that includes circa 1500 houses/outbuildings, pasture land, and forest. The Valley below though is where the real history was made, from Celtic to WWII. Even Hannibal walked through our valley. Hoping for some petrified elephant dung. This weekend we are going to give it a try and see if all those shy hiding Roman and Celtic gold coins want a new owner..... I'm getting my cleaning methods down, and bookmarking as many reference sites as I run across, too.

In this hobby, there are actually three hunts.;.....The Land, the Booty, and the Google.

Sounds good Valleys are OK, but remember the best places are the high ground or just off the high ground on a Plato. Look carefully at the landscape, and anything that looks un-natural, ie lumps & dips - hit those areas first. As well as the usual eyes open for pottery, & detector listening for iron. Iron nails & lead patches hides Gold Coins

 

[goldnow]

I'm with Crusader, in this being 1890's. The GLASS stone was maybe or maybe not foiled back when it was new, and the missing stones are most probably small rhinestones. You guys are making this FAR older than it actually is.
I have dealt in vintage and antique jewelry for 35 years, and the style and construction screams 1890-1910.

Goldnow,
Your time is close, the finds are flowing, you have ancient ground to hunt, so its just a matter of how much time your wiling to sacrifice in hunting

Yes, you are right. I remember one thing you said a few months back, where you didn't know what you were doing wrong before, but all of a sudden the right pieces are showing up. I took this as a good lesson, so I decided to practice on the available land around me, before I hit some very impressive possible great producing spots, so I wouldn't waste my time. I have notice a 100% increase in finds to junk, and have repeated the same land and have come up with keepers everyday, including today, I overlooked the earlier times. I've learned to slow down and overlap better, and relax in to it. I was rushing a little in the beginning. Remember I only started in August in Earnest on the land. Also, I've been lining up permissions, as you made clear to me are the hardest and most important to find the good finds. I have just gotten permission on around 5 acres of land, that includes circa 1500 houses/outbuildings, pasture land, and forest. The Valley below though is where the real history was made, from Celtic to WWII. Even Hannibal walked through our valley. Hoping for some petrified elephant dung. This weekend we are going to give it a try and see if all those shy hiding Roman and Celtic gold coins want a new owner..... I'm getting my cleaning methods down, and bookmarking as many reference sites as I run across, too.

In this hobby, there are actually three hunts.;.....The Land, the Booty, and the Google.

Sounds good Valleys are OK, but remember the best places are the high ground or just off the high ground on a Plato. Look carefully at the landscape, and anything that looks un-natural, ie lumps & dips - hit those areas first. As well as the usual eyes open for pottery, & detector listening for iron. Iron nails & lead patches hides Gold Coins

I have my Vaquero set at just below the nickel notch, which allows me to hear a larger piece of iron, like a small knob or a med-large square head nail, and lead (bale seal size and musket balls) now.. Are you suggesting I go to All-Metal? That is ear-bashing on my unit.

This valley is strange to me.. There is nothing built on it. All the civilization/villages, Churches, etc. are butt next to the mountains on each side. There is a river meanders through it, and the land is used 90% for hay, and 10% is turned for other crops. I believe the soil is basically soft unstable sand, being the reason for no one building on it for millennia. I believe the valley was once a lake thousands of years ago, before the Celtics/Romans, as the 2000 yr. old maps show it as land. It's flat as a pancake. But whoever came through here walked, camped, rode their horses, maybe had their fairs, battles on it.

 

[CRUSADER]

I'm with Crusader, in this being 1890's. The GLASS stone was maybe or maybe not foiled back when it was new, and the missing stones are most probably small rhinestones. You guys are making this FAR older than it actually is.
I have dealt in vintage and antique jewelry for 35 years, and the style and construction screams 1890-1910.

Goldnow,
Your time is close, the finds are flowing, you have ancient ground to hunt, so its just a matter of how much time your wiling to sacrifice in hunting

Yes, you are right. I remember one thing you said a few months back, where you didn't know what you were doing wrong before, but all of a sudden the right pieces are showing up. I took this as a good lesson, so I decided to practice on the available land around me, before I hit some very impressive possible great producing spots, so I wouldn't waste my time. I have notice a 100% increase in finds to junk, and have repeated the same land and have come up with keepers everyday, including today, I overlooked the earlier times. I've learned to slow down and overlap better, and relax in to it. I was rushing a little in the beginning. Remember I only started in August in Earnest on the land. Also, I've been lining up permissions, as you made clear to me are the hardest and most important to find the good finds. I have just gotten permission on around 5 acres of land, that includes circa 1500 houses/outbuildings, pasture land, and forest. The Valley below though is where the real history was made, from Celtic to WWII. Even Hannibal walked through our valley. Hoping for some petrified elephant dung. This weekend we are going to give it a try and see if all those shy hiding Roman and Celtic gold coins want a new owner..... I'm getting my cleaning methods down, and bookmarking as many reference sites as I run across, too.

In this hobby, there are actually three hunts.;.....The Land, the Booty, and the Google.

Sounds good Valleys are OK, but remember the best places are the high ground or just off the high ground on a Plato. Look carefully at the landscape, and anything that looks un-natural, ie lumps & dips - hit those areas first. As well as the usual eyes open for pottery, & detector listening for iron. Iron nails & lead patches hides Gold Coins

I have my Vaquero set at just below the nickel notch, which allows me to hear a larger piece of iron, like a small knob or a med-large square head nail, and lead (bale seal size and musket balls) now.. Are you suggesting I go to All-Metal? That is ear-bashing on my unit.

This valley is strange to me.. There is nothing built on it. All the civilization/villages, Churches, etc. are butt next to the mountains on each side. There is a river meanders through it, and the land is used 90% for hay, and 10% is turned for other crops. I believe the soil is basically soft unstable sand, being the reason for no one building on it for millennia. I believe the valley was once a lake thousands of years ago, before the Celtics/Romans, as the 2000 yr. old maps show it as land. It's flat as a pancake. But whoever came through here walked, camped, rode their horses, maybe had their fairs, battles on it.

I've never liked all-metal mode on the Tesoro's, but have always had the Disc below Iron & Ses as high as conditions allow. In my opinion, any Disc affects the depth & reliability, trust your ears & never trust the machine or any VDUs. I clear tons of rubbish (even knowing its rubbish), its how we detect, as we know next year its less to listen to. However, I'm quick, & you have to find the style that best suits you & the field. Flexibility with approach is the best way. I have detected a field which was full & I mean full of iron & iron nails. Every sweep was 10 signals across the whole field, I joke not. What most would do is pump up the Disc & cherry pick. What I did is left it in near all-metal & ignore the constant iron signals whilst picking out the higher tones that were all mixed up in the tune I was listening to. It takes concentration, but you are hearing everything & the decision is yours & not the machines. Take control Bells & whistles are for beginners & selling detectors, keep it simple!

 

[goldnow]

Crusader;... "I've never liked all-metal mode on the Tesoro's, but have always had the Disc below Iron & Ses as high as conditions allow. In my opinion, any Disc affects the depth & reliability, trust your ears & never trust the machine or any VDUs. I clear tons of rubbish (even knowing its rubbish), its how we detect, as we know next year its less to listen to. However, I'm quick, & you have to find the style that best suits you & the field. Flexibility with approach is the best way. I have detected a field which was full & I mean full of iron & iron nails. Every sweep was 10 signals across the whole field, I joke not. What most would do is pump up the Disc & cherry pick. What I did is left it in near all-metal & ignore the constant iron signals whilst picking out the higher tones that were all mixed up in the tune I was listening to. It takes concentration, but you are hearing everything & the decision is yours & not the machines. Take control icon_thumright Bells & whistles are for beginners & selling detectors, keep it simple!"

I've got the Vaquero on Super-Tune 100% of the time. Anything lower on my disc will only bring me med to small nails, etc. And I still get a few of those anyway. I don't cherry pick anymore, I dig everything that remotely gives a decent signal in at least one direction, and with the iffy's I clear the ground some to find an improvement. Most of my latest good finds were iffys I rejected when I was cherry picking the first time on the land. So I learned that lesson, I think...except if they sound long, then they are a wire or a nail. I'm digging consistently to 8-10 inches, but mos in the 3-6 inch range.

I'm still trying to comprehend sinkage over the years. The 1800 medallion I found yesterday was at the same depth, 6inches, in the same hole as a bottle cap, 1960's let's say. Why

 

[CRUSADER]

Crusader;... "I've never liked all-metal mode on the Tesoro's, but have always had the Disc below Iron & Ses as high as conditions allow. In my opinion, any Disc affects the depth & reliability, trust your ears & never trust the machine or any VDUs. I clear tons of rubbish (even knowing its rubbish), its how we detect, as we know next year its less to listen to. However, I'm quick, & you have to find the style that best suits you & the field. Flexibility with approach is the best way. I have detected a field which was full & I mean full of iron & iron nails. Every sweep was 10 signals across the whole field, I joke not. What most would do is pump up the Disc & cherry pick. What I did is left it in near all-metal & ignore the constant iron signals whilst picking out the higher tones that were all mixed up in the tune I was listening to. It takes concentration, but you are hearing everything & the decision is yours & not the machines. Take control icon_thumright Bells & whistles are for beginners & selling detectors, keep it simple!"

I've got the Vaquero on Super-Tune 100% of the time. Anything lower on my disc will only bring me med to small nails, etc. And I still get a few of those anyway. I don't cherry pick anymore, I dig everything that remotely gives a decent signal in at least one direction, and with the iffy's I clear the ground some to find an improvement. Most of my latest good finds were iffys I rejected when I was cherry picking the first time on the land. So I learned that lesson, I think...except if they sound long, then they are a wire or a nail. I'm digging consistently to 8-10 inches, but mos in the 3-6 inch range.

I'm still trying to comprehend sinkage over the years. The 1800 medallion I found yesterday was at the same depth, 6inches, in the same hole as a bottle cap, 1960's let's say. Why

Iffy is my favourite dig


Probably ground disturbance...

 

[Aquila]

Intresting find !