as i am not an employee or paid advertiser of dells or any other dowser, i think some people{excluding black} on here might like to hear my side....map or information dowsing has been used successfully for thousands of years, there are many written accounts of this....on a personal level, i have used two map/information dowsers....dell is one, and the other will remain unnamed in order to protect his credibility from the likes of the disbeliever {he says} that is always blasting dell and his very informative posts......i have researched many projects, some for several years..some of these areas i have sent maps to both these people...both of them DO have an ability..neither of these has ever charged me a cent for their time and effort..dell i have used on a few projects...the other dowser and i have been working together over a year on countless projects......both of these people have led me to many sites that i never would have found as written research on caches buried is ALLWAYS incomplete and full of holes, { for a very good reason}.......both of these people can tell me where to look for a certain man made ?marker or sign and every time it is found within 50-100 feet of their co-ordinates....these markers vary from simple tree carvings to very elaborate signposts, to underground markers that are only detectable via site dowsing or a compass...both of these people have led me to buried treasures. they know it and i know it... each of them lives several states away from me and knows nothing at all about the areas i am searching other than a simple, non-informative topo map or aerial photo........no, there are no pictures or proof, and there never will be for obvious reasons..the most prominant being that who cares what the unbelievers think, that will just leave more in the ground for others that are not so short- sighted.......and as for anyone listening too hard to black, i suggest before they do, to do a little research into his not so long ago background, see just who he has worked for, and what he has done for pay,,,,,then research dell, ?and i think you will see that what is said about dell, or any other dowser is but a drop in the bucket compared to what could be said about mr black....i own no equipment sold by dell, and throughout my many conversations with him, he has never , not once, tried to push any of it on me......i do own a peice of equipment that was bought from one of blacks former employers, at a very inflated cost of over $1700.00... this peice of equipment is nothing other than a scam in a box, which never comes out of the basement.... have you ever boosted these black ? while stating no-one elses equipment worked ?...........it was not bought because i am short-sighted, or greedy, or any of the other reasons i have seen posted as to why people buy these things...it was bought by me, thinking that with all the technological advances in the world today, that maybe it would work......well it doesn't. but i do not sit around whining and crying to everyone about it,, no,, , i simply get out my trusty old dowsing rods, and do my best to locate items that are out there, just as the spanish did a couple three hundred years ago, using the same method...they didn't fill up all those galleons by sitting around bitching, they did it by dowsing and digging...you never hear of alot of spanish test holes being found, only spanish mines. these were first located via dowsing, and compasses.......before anyone listens too hard to anyone saying it will not, does not work, or saying it is the work of the devil, i would suggest reading up on spanish history, trying it out for yourselves, and check out several chapters in the bible..............gldhntr