Back at the New Permission

ANTIQUARIAN · Aug 23, 2020

I got back to my new permission for 3hrs early this morning before it got too hot and made a couple more finds. :thumbsup:

Through online research I was able to get some pics of what the house and property looked like before the house was demolished in 2011. This site dates from the 1840 – 50 period, the original homestead was bulldozed in 2011.

This site is literally paved with can slaw, aluminum siding pieces and flat metal fragments, all of which the Deus loves to find for me. :laughing7:

My first find was a 2002 - 2 Euro coin. Now I’ve never found one of these European coins before and I was really surprised by how beautiful the design was. My next find was a brass finger loop for a candle holder, then I found what must be a domed horse rosette, as there was still a piece of leather inside the back. I was swinging my way back to the car when I found the large crotal bell.

Thanks very much for looking,
Dave

lenmac65 · Aug 23, 2020

Nice finds. Really like that bell. Congrats!

pepperj · Aug 23, 2020

Nicely done on the bell Dave.

RVRoamer76 · Aug 23, 2020

Nice hunt and finds. The bell is sweet, also like the brass finger loop for a candle holder. Very nice indeed.

Digger RJ · Aug 23, 2020

Nice!!! Congrats!!!

ANTIQUARIAN · Aug 24, 2020

lenmac65 said:
Nice finds. Really like that bell. Congrats!

Thank you Len, my only wish is that it had come out cleaner.
The soil quality here varies widely from hole to hole.

That's one of the challenges of detecting a site that's had consistent occupation for 180 years. :tongue3:

pepperj said:
Nicely done on the bell Dave.

Thanks Jim.
I can't wait for the hot weather to be pushed out this week though.

I also can't wait for the beans to be cut on a few of my other sites either. :laughing7:

RVRoamer66 said:
Nice hunt and finds. The bell is sweet, also like the brass finger loop for a candle holder. Very nice indeed.

Thanks for your post Patriot. :icon_thumleft:

I found one of these brass finger loops back in 2014 and made a ring out of it.
I'm thinking I'm going to re-purpose this loop the same way too.

Digger RJ said:
Nice!!! Congrats!!!

Thanks Randy!

Underwonder · Aug 25, 2020

Nice finds, Dave! I want to find a crotal bell in the worst way...So many folks here find them. Is a field where I need to look? I really so prefer woods hunts! Congrats on all your nice finds!

WaterScoop · Aug 25, 2020

Sweet finds, thanx for sharing!

ANTIQUARIAN · Aug 25, 2020

Underwonder said:
Nice finds, Dave! I want to find a crotal bell in the worst way...So many folks here find them. Is a field where I need to look? I really so prefer woods hunts! Congrats on all your nice finds!

Hi Kim, this type of mid-19thc crotal bell was likely attached to a leather strap that hung around the horses neck.
I've found them in the front yards of houses and in the fields, but most will be found around where the barns were located.

"The earliest bells were cup-shaped and were struck externally with a separate striker, but it was not long before the attached internal clapper was invented, and the two types have co-existed ever since. The crotal bell was developed somewhat later. It differs from the preceding types in that its clapper is loose and contained within an enclosed chamber with perforations to allow transmission of the sound. Although crotal bells were possibly first used in antiquity, surviving examples that can reliably be dated before the medieval period are rare. The earliest dateable examples identified while carrying out research for the present article are some of the 9th century AD, recovered from female graves in Gotland, Sweden. They were found on chains suspended from chatelaine-type brooches and appear to be of similar construction to English crotal bells dateable to the 13th century.

It is worth mentioning that, depending on context, sleigh bells, jingle bells, pellet bells, hawk bells and rumbler bells are all terms used to describe bells of the crotal type. Technically they are regarded as rattles, rather than true bells. As the method of manufacturing the one-piece bell has changed little since the Tudor period, the determination of their chronology is dependent on differences of detail, rather than basic manufacturing concept. Close dating is often difficult, unless the bells can be associated with a maker whose period of operation is known from documentary sources. This is rarely the case prior to the late 17th century when some makers began to put their initials on the bells.

Bells that are decorated only on the lower hemisphere tend to be of later date, usually late 18th to mid 19th century. Those with no decoration also usually date to this later period. There are, however, exceptions to this general rule, and plain bells of early post-medieval date are also known. All the indicators discussed should be taken into consideration when dating a bell. It should also be noted that the decoration can often have a very worn appearance and is sometimes barely discernible. It seems unlikely that such wear occurred in use, and it is probably mostly due to the use of worn-out patterns."

Here's a great website that I've used for research for years, it discusses the history and use of crotal bells through time... Crotal bells - ukdfd

Best of luck to you in Rhode Island,
Dave

WaterScoop said:
Sweet finds, thanx for sharing!

Thanks for your post WS.

Love your Gretzky saying too.
My wife and I had a glass of is chardonnay last night at dinner, he owns a winery in the Niagara Region here in Ontario. :thumbsup:

ticndig · Aug 25, 2020

Man that coin is top shelf . I'd be very happy to find one of those.

ANTIQUARIAN · Aug 25, 2020

ticndig said:
Man that coin is top shelf . I'd be very happy to find one of those.

Thank you ticndig. :thumbsup:

I'd be happier if I'd dug a US LC, as opposed to a Euro coin, I've only ever found one of those.
Dave

thrifty76now · Aug 25, 2020

Great photos,and better finds,

ticndig · Aug 25, 2020

Large cents are common here but the ground really destroys them.

ANTIQUARIAN · Aug 25, 2020

thrifty76now said:
Great photos,and better finds,

Thanks thrifty76now, swinging low to the ground here is a real challenge due to the winter wheat stalks. :sadsmiley:

Dave

ticndig said:
Large cents are common here but the ground really destroys them.

The example that I found is Coronet Large Cent, so dating from 1816 - 39.
Unfortunately, the side with the date on it is in rough shape, that's where they punched the hole through. :icon_scratch:

Joe-Dirt · Aug 25, 2020

Nice job Dave!!!!!!!!!!!

ANTIQUARIAN · Aug 25, 2020

Joe-Dirt said:
Nice job Dave!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks very much Bob, nice to hear from you. :occasion14:

Gene Mean · Aug 25, 2020

Nice finds at a beautiful spot. Nothing like being out there.

ANTIQUARIAN · Aug 26, 2020

Gene Mean said:
Nice finds at a beautiful spot. Nothing like being out there.

Thanks Gene. :thumbsup:

I've thinking about you guys in the US dealing with the Covid situation.
It's calmed down quite a bit up here lately, but at least we've been able to get out detecting.

Stay safe buddy,
Dave