Bazooka Gold Trap VS Gemstones???

[Nature Nate]

Was curious if anyone has reported catching gemstones in the Bazooka Gold Trap If so, maybe get an idea of the size "karat" they're recovering?

 

[Nature Nate]

No one Come on!!! There has got to be someone out there with some info!!!

 

[yotaboy86]

Also curious

 

[Underburden]

If the gemstones have a high specific gravity they would probably be laying in the bottom of the trap, along with the gold.

 

[yotaboy86]

That's what I was thinking guess I'll have to do some gravity research

 

[Nature Nate]

Well i too figure that's the case? Although I'm wondering what size vs type are being recovered, if any? There should be some math on this product of flow vs weight in the trap and what to expect to recover based on studies and test... you would think, right? Well thank you for sharing your thoughts.

 

[Nature Nate]

Really no one I would like to find this info out before purchase of this type of sluice... Anybody

 

[Underburden]

Nope, nobody.
I know of nobody that buys a sluice to collect gem stones.
I also know of nobody that manufactures a sluice to collect gem stones.
Anybody

 

[Johnnybravo300]

Nope. Just for gold.

 

[triple d]

They will catch the garnets which are small. So I would say they should catch other gems.Ive found smokie quartz, tourmaline, quartz cystals.Just have to search thought the cons.Don"t know how efficent they are. But if they are there you should find some.

 

[Jim in Idaho]

The problem with recovering gems is the small difference in specific gravity of gems vs the typical country rock. Gold is about 7x heavier than the background rocks/sand. Gems are only about 1.5x heavier. So, to get rid of the background material and retain the gems requires extremely careful adjustment of the pressure in the fluid bed. You don't have any means of doing that in a BGT, or any other sluice. You may still catch a few, but the majority will go out with the tails. On top of that, to get good gem recovery, even in a jig, you have to classify so the size ratio on the material you're running, from small to large is no more than 1:2. If you let that get in the range of 1:4 you lose about 30%.
Jim

 

[Nature Nate]

Alright that is promising to hear!!! if its catching such things as garnet which is heavy but not as heavy as some other precious gems then I'm good to go!!! I really just needed to know if anyone out there had found such gems in their recovery, seems there is at least on prospector on line that has and that's enough for me.

Jim you are a right on the spot I believe about the size vs the pressure adjustment. I think once I get by fluid bed sluice I will most likely do some home test on such gemstones and pressure now that I here there is a possibility of the stones being recovered.

Well mister Underburden, I will catch back up with you an let you know how I did on the recovery... This will take some fine tuning I am sure.

Thanks guys for all your input, very useful!!! I will be reporting back

 

[Jim in Idaho]

Alright that is promising to hear!!! if its catching such things as garnet which is heavy but not as heavy as some other precious gems then I'm good to go!!! I really just needed to know if anyone out there had found such gems in their recovery, seems there is at least on prospector on line that has and that's enough for me.

Jim you are a right on the spot I believe about the size vs the pressure adjustment. I think once I get by fluid bed sluice I will most likely do some home test on such gemstones and pressure now that I here there is a possibility of the stones being recovered.

Well mister Underburden, I will catch back up with you an let you know how I did on the recovery... This will take some fine tuning I am sure.

Thanks guys for all your input, very useful!!! I will be reporting back

Actually, some garnet is heavier than most gems. The heaviest gem is corundum at about 4.2. Garnet can run from 3.5 to 4.2 in most cases. There are afew other gems that weigh more, but they tend to be rare, or aren't available in the US. Most of the common gems run from 3.2 to 4.0. Almandine garnet is 4.9, and is one of the more common garnets found.
Jim

 

[Nature Nate]

See, this is why I love TREASURNET forum!!!!

Thanks for the info Jim!!!

 

[Nature Nate]

The range I am looking to recover is around gravity range of 3.5 type gems. So now its all about figuring out how to keep them in the trap based upon pressure entering into the fluid bed... That's really the big question!!!

 

[Nature Nate]

I found a chart on Gemselect.com if anyone was interested in gravity weights for those who are following..

 

[Jim in Idaho]

Nate, from my experience, which is pretty extensive with gems, what you want is a jig if you want to do a continuous feed setup. Or, if you're simply prospecting, a saruca works really well. I design and build jigs, and sell plans, too. I have jigs working from the US to Australia, to Madgaskar....at least I've sold plans to people in all those places. You can see videos of my jigs here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqNRFYju0E_a0fqpuL8_avg

 

[treasurehunterpennyfinder]

here are some tumbled semi precious stones I bought for practice panning .
i bought on ebay.
check out under gold panning or semi precious rocks for tumbling or tumbled?

this would be a good test. if you don't find any send me a message . I tried to resell for kids practice panning but no buyers, so have stones lying around.

 

[Skunked68w]

jim in idaho said it all. you need a saruca. just shovel your tailings into the saruca/gem seive and find all the gems that are there. also a highbanker works very well for finding gems. shovel into box and look at crystals that fall of grizzly. but ultimately if gems are your passion a jig will be necessary. I dont think a BGT would work well. to keep gems in the trap you would need low flow and no drop. this would probably make the trap clog. a drop riffle sluice would probably work better

 

[Nature Nate]

So, maybe I need to look into these methods ya'll have provided... Maybe I missing the BIG picture Maybe using a fluid bed is not going to give me the recovery I need. I do have a very nice saruca and plenty of classifiers. I am not the most season of prospector although I have used many tools from dredging in Alaska to Metal detecting in Arizona to panning in south Texas. So I do have a little idea but maybe not seeing this through clearly?? I am wanting to do a little Diamond prospecting in Arkansas. I have my own tools and have been there many times and the work is tedious to say the least due to material conditions... I was hoping that I could allow A controlled pressurized fluid bed system to do all the other clean up work for me from 1/4" on down rather then classifying all the way down to my saruca and cut my time in half and energy spent as well... So maybe I will need to rethink this...

Jim I will take a look at some of your recovery tools/jigs.

Thank you all for your help!!!

Thank you all again for the help!!!