Beach and water detector for gold chain

[arizonaames]

What is the best detector for underwater and for the beach that will easily pick up small gold chain deep?

 

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[Terry Soloman]

There isn't one.

 

[Idigack]

He's right...if it doesn't have a pendant attached chances are slim..HH Dave

 

[Acquisitor]

there are some for fresh water, but not for sea water.

 

[bigscoop]

I use the Excal. "Small" gold chain on ocean beaches? A pendent, clasp, or it had better be balled up and presenting a larger signature. Lay one stretched out over the wet sand and if you are very lucky and running a very hot and stable sensitivity setting with a small coil you might be able to generate a repeatable response, maybe even at an inch or two under the sand if you are lucky but these will only be slight tics at best. This is on my area beaches.

 

[arizonaames]

I have picked up stretched out small gold chain at 1 to 2 inches with my MXT on east coast beaches. I wonder what a CZ21 or an AT Pro will do?

 

[Blskypilot]

The at pro will likely miss it. I've tested mine on SC beaches and small chains either gotta be wadded up or rubbed directly on the coil for a response.

 

[dewcon4414]

You must be talking DRY sand if you hit those.... or like was mentioned they had clasps with springs in them. Try it in the wet sand. Anything capable of handling the high conductive salt has a salt setting to stabilize the machine..... down side it knocks out smaller gold. Also detectors see only a link at a time not the whole chain. The CZ wont work any better than a PI or Xcal.... the AT Pro is a single freq machine and its not an effective salt water machine. The MXT was designed from a gold machine. Like Terry said none will EASILY find them..... the reality is if you are in the salt water you are ring hunting... and on occasions you get lucky and find other gold targets.... like teeth and charms.

Dew

 

[bigscoop]

The majority of these small gold chains were found with the Excal 800 in the edges of runnels containing saltwater. At least one of them is missing the clasp. But it is unlikely that you will find them applying traditional techniques. The smaller the coil the better your chances, the swifter the swing speed the better your chances. But if they are stretched out with no clasp or pendant, forget it!

 

[hamiddetecting]

Fine gold

Yes of course, finding thin gold with metal detectors, its hard. You may find fine gold(thin) with metal detectors, but if it was no depth(between 0 and 10cm), i found all sort of jewerly in beaches(wet sand) and its was near the water(salt water).
The problem is where and when?
These are my finds with metal detectors:

 

[s1u2r3f4]

The majority of these small gold chains were found with the Excal 800 in the edges of runnels containing saltwater. At least one of them is missing the clasp. But it is unlikely that you will find them applying traditional techniques. The smaller the coil the better your chances, the swifter the swing speed the better your chances. But if they are stretched out with no clasp or pendant, forget it!

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Why the fast swing? I've always heard low and slow.

 

[dewcon4414]

BS..... what ive found about the fast swing is the Xcal when using on the edge sensitivity likes a fast swing.... lower sensitivity for some reason does as good with a slower swing. S1.... do an air test and see what the depth difference is .... its kind of surprising like BS said. Only thing that comes into play with a fast swing is trash.... if you are in a trashy area you are going to get coil shut down over every target which reduces depth during recovery time. That could be why some say they get just as good of depth with the small coil IN the water.... the ability to move it faster.

Dew

 

[Sandman]

Forget using the CZ-21 or AT Pro on thin gold chains without a pendant or clasp. You could have fair luck with a Tiger Shark but not at most saltwater beaches. I have found earring backs with the CZ and I have a picture here somewhere which I'll post if I find it.

 

[bigscoop]

My area beaches are fairly clean of trash and mineralization is a minimum issue, this is certainly an advantage. There is a reason why quicker swing speeds produce stronger returns and it is all relevant to motion/target deflection. i.e., the stronger the send signal, the stronger the returns. The harder we bounce a basketball the faster/harder it will return to the hand. The faster the speeding bullet the further it will travel when deflected off course. Our machines are motion detectors and they don't care if that motion is up and down or sideways, but they must have it in order to produce returns. Our multiple frequency machines are already hunting deeper then we realize, but because our power source is being shared by more then one source the strength of these individual send signals is reduced. When we speed up the motion of the coil we are actually creating stronger send signals which likewise produce stronger returns. Take a small gold object and lay it in the wet sand and a slow swing speed may not produce a strong enough return, however, increase the swing speed and it just might. It is the same principle as adding after market headphones, the faint returns are there but we just can't hear them. Swifter swing speeds simply increases the strength in these returns.

 

[Beach Papa]

I have picked up a fine gold chain at about 4" deep, without clasp or pendant, with the Tesoro Tiger Shark and 3" x 18" clean sweep DD coil. It shocked me, because none of my 4 other detectors even saw the chain at any depth. However, the Tiger Shark is not the best tool for in the salt water. It falses too much and adjusting the sensativity to make it work is not a simple task with unknown depth loss to get it stable. On the wet sand you can make it work for you, but not in the water. Papa

 

[Delbird]

Gold chains

Yes of course, finding thin gold with metal detectors, its hard. You may find fine gold(thin) with metal detectors, but if it was no depth(between 0 and 10cm), i found all sort of jewerly in beaches(wet sand) and its was near the water(salt water).
The problem is where and when?
These are my finds with metal detectors:

Hi I just wondered which detector you used fir these please?

 

[GreenMeanie]

I had to touch the small chain on most detectors to get them to find it.

 

[frogmaster-riviera]

The only detectors that "may" find a gold chain are PI with high power and super tunned low delay.

Garrett ATX is not bad at all
Whites TDI Pro with custom made coil from Mantadetectors
Some Eric fosters creations....
In any case the max depth will be 1 to 3 inches

CTX, CZ, excals etc..... most of the time, even in contact with the you won't have any signal

 

[dewcon4414]

The Xcal will pick up a LARGER gold chain, one with a charm, or sometimes the clasps (some have SS springs) depending on size. But for the most part the detector sees each link....... so a PI with low Us is about your only shot even they have trouble if you have to adjust the delay. Man this is an old thread lol.

 

[LawrencetheMDer]

In the last 4 yrs, with my Excal II, I have found maybe 15-20 gold, platinum and sterling rings and ONE thin gold chain with a small diamond and gold heart. Depth was about 1-2". In the listings of Finds from some of the longer term TreasureNet members, there seems to be about 20 gold pieces per gold chain or bracelet found, if that. Finding a gold chain or bracelet is rare, regardless of the detector. And, particularly, it is important to note that the lower frequency VLF detectors cannot detect gold no matter the size of the object, even rings. The value of the ATPro is that it runs at 15Khz.