Beautiful 1800-1834 British Naval button

[jimmy uk]

hi people went on a land pasture land and it was a nightmare lots n lots of coke from old iron works the signals was no where apart from this lovely button which i found and its got some history to it which i love here is some history about it and about the Naval signs on the button

[h=3]First flag of National Maritime Museum[/h] image by Martin Grieve, 3 September 2006
In 1832 the Navy Board, whose badge had been 'gules a greater anchor between two smaller anchors or', was amalgamated with the Board of Admiralty. The National Maritime Museum which opened in Greenwich on 27 April 1937, was given permission by the Admiralty to use the design of the Navy Board badge for marking prints, drawings, books etc. In January 1957 the Trustees of the Museum asked if the badge could be used as the flag of the Museum. The Admiralty replied that permission for use of the badge could be taken to imply the use of the device complete, including its proper colours. The Trustees also consulted the Home Office who replied that there was no objection to the Museum using the badge as a flag, that the Sovereign's permission was not necessary, and that Garter King of Arms (Sir George Bellew) did not foresee any difficulty.

The original significance of three anchors is not known, but the Museum decided that they should be taken to represent the Royal Navy, the Merchant Navy and the Fishing Fleet.



thanks for looking

 

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[CRUSADER]

I've had several similar designs from circa 1800 without the extra 2 small anchors, but not seen this one before, so in my books its a pretty cool button. Greenwich Hospital School has some history going back to William & Mary, I have some connection to this history

 

[jimmy uk]

ive had spent hours today on the internet looking to find a match with this button but i cant find nothing do you know a forum at all that deals with old army items>

 

[CRUSADER]

ive had spent hours today on the internet looking to find a match with this button but i cant find nothing do you know a forum at all that deals with old army items>

The backmark will give a tight date, but I guess you researched this already?

I don't know any good Army? Sites. The UKDFD should do the job for you, as per norm?

 

[Iron Patch]

Royal Navy Master button Circa. 1807. (first issue)

 

[jimmy uk]

ive found it page 3 Trinity House - The working Thames - Port Cities

 

[jimmy uk]

Royal Navy Master button Circa. 1807. (first issue)

thanks Iron patch so is the master the boss of the ship?

 

[Iron Patch]

thanks Iron patch so is the master the boss of the ship?

Master (naval)



The master, or sailing master, was a historic term for a naval officer trained in and responsible for the navigation of a sailing vessel. The rank can be equated to a professional seaman and specialist in navigation, rather than as a military commander.
In the British Royal Navy, the master was a rank of warrant officer who ranked with, but after, the lieutenants and was eventually renamed to navigating lieutenant in 1867. When the United States Navy was formed in 1794, master was listed as one of the warrant officer ranks and ranked between midshipmen and lieutenants. The rank was also a commissioned officer rank from 1837 until it was replaced with the current rank of lieutenant, junior grade in 1883.



Master (naval) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[jimmy uk]

thanks very much for your help Iron patch i could of done that bit lazy really :-/ thanks for the help

 

[CRUSADER]

Good ID, another one I need on the button list...

 

[Iron Patch]

Good ID, another one I need on the button list...

I have a nice one, found about 10 years ago. There's also pewter versions of this button but they are not as common. A few were found in a field here but at the time buttons were still fairly new to me.

Also add the Purser (crossed anchors) . It turns up quite often, but is still on my to find list.

 

[Iron Patch]

Here's the one I dug. There seems to be many variants probably because there was many makers.

 

[jewelerguy]

sweet!