Brass eagles?

Merf · Nov 25, 2009

Found these at a field site last week. :dontknow:

Help is appreciated. TIA Merf

Montana Jim · Nov 25, 2009

2nd piece looks like part of a sword hilt guard...

kuger · Nov 25, 2009

Montana Jim said:
2nd piece looks like part of a sword hilt guard...

Wow!That would be cool!They sure were patriotic back in the day,Eagles on everything!

Woodland Detectors · Nov 25, 2009

Great finds if that's what they are.

NGE · Nov 26, 2009

Way back a long time ago, before there was electricity in most homes. They used natural gas to light their homes. And the 2nd. and 3rd. pics look like the brackets that held the gas line away from the walls.........NGE

72cheyenne · Nov 26, 2009

The first item look most like a flag pole topper, and I agree on the second as being part of a sword hilt guard.

johnnyi · Nov 26, 2009

Merf, can we see a pic of the back of the second piece?

rjw4law · Nov 26, 2009

These look like 1800's style of eagle artwork.

Merf · Nov 26, 2009

johnnyi said:
Merf, can we see a pic of the back of the second piece?

John-----The pics show the fronts and backs of 2 items.

EDDE · Nov 26, 2009

Montana Jim said:
2nd piece looks like part of a sword hilt guard...

ditto looking now......

EDDE · Nov 26, 2009

This is an example of what Im looking for/at using google images"brass eagle sword hilt cross-guard"

intimer · Nov 26, 2009

first one maybe a weather vane topper

if the ball of the first one had an attachment it could be one of those ice dam breaker thing on roof edges.

BuckleBoy · Nov 26, 2009

Montana Jim said:
2nd piece looks like part of a sword hilt guard...

Absolutely!

My advice to you Merf, is to get a free account and post this photo on the international sword forum. Someone there will know immediately whether it is or isn't a sword hilt--and if it is, they will know the date range and perhaps even manufacturer.

http://www.swordforum.com/

Best Wishes,

Buckles

johnnyi · Nov 27, 2009

Merf, great to see the back of the hilt and a clear view of both breaks. Finding all these together really adds some weight to the eagles being on flag staffs. Napoleon's army used the bronze eagle on their flag staffs (burried a huge number on the Steppes of Russia during his retreat) and the French were in the general area assuming this was found in south eastern Texas. The other possibility is the Mexican War. Hopefully you're searching in a low discrimination relic mode? As the condition of these things look like this field was never plowed, it would really be helpful to see all the smaller relics that came out of it to get some idea if this was a route or encampment. Great finds!

Merf · Nov 27, 2009

BuckleBoy said:
Montana Jim said:

2nd piece looks like part of a sword hilt guard...

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Absolutely!

My advice to you Merf, is to get a free account and post this photo on the international sword forum. Someone there will know immediately whether it is or isn't a sword hilt--and if it is, they will know the date range and perhaps even manufacturer.

http://www.swordforum.com/

Best Wishes,

Buckles

Thanks Buckles-----I will do that

Merf · Nov 27, 2009

72cheyenne said:
The first item look most like a flag pole topper, and I agree on the second as being part of a sword hilt guard.

I think that may be the answer Cheyenne-- :thumbsup:

-Here is a pic of the bottom of the ball.
Looks like the fastening point.

Merf · Nov 27, 2009

johnnyi said:
Merf, great to see the back of the hilt and a clear view of both breaks. Finding all these together really adds some weight to the eagles being on flag staffs. Napoleon's army used the bronze eagle on their flag staffs (burried a huge number on the Steppes of Russia during his retreat) and the French were in the general area assuming this was found in south eastern Texas. The other possibility is the Mexican War. Hopefully you're searching in a low discrimination relic mode? As the condition of these things look like this field was never plowed, it would really be helpful to see all the smaller relics that came out of it to get some idea if this was a route or encampment. Great finds!

Thanks Johnny :thumbsup:

I found a few flat buttons and a couple of CW buttons in that part of the county.
Not much else as far as brass relics.
I found this French coin [I think] made into a button in the same general area.

kuger · Nov 27, 2009

Merf said:
johnnyi said:

Merf, great to see the back of the hilt and a clear view of both breaks. Finding all these together really adds some weight to the eagles being on flag staffs. Napoleon's army used the bronze eagle on their flag staffs (burried a huge number on the Steppes of Russia during his retreat) and the French were in the general area assuming this was found in south eastern Texas. The other possibility is the Mexican War. Hopefully you're searching in a low discrimination relic mode? As the condition of these things look like this field was never plowed, it would really be helpful to see all the smaller relics that came out of it to get some idea if this was a route or encampment. Great finds!

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Thats cool!!!Looks like like an improvised cuff link!!

Thanks Johnny
I found a few flat buttons and a couple of CW buttons in that part of the county.
Not much else as far as brass relics.
I found this French coin [I think] made into a button in the same general area.

Merf · Nov 29, 2009

Thanks to all for the replies. :thumbsup:

I took Buckles advice and posted pics on the sword forum and got this response from one of the moderators. I guess the piece will remain a mystery. :icon_scratch:

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Hi Terry,

Welcome to Sword Forum International

Is this ferrous, as in a magnet will stick?

I'm immediately reminded of a favorite harpy type I have files of but what is pictured in your attachments doesn't immediately say sword hilt to me.

Cheers

Hotspur; that's a pretty beaky bugger, whatever it is