Bridle Jingle SPANISH ..... Updated Photo

[Old Dog]

I don't post pictures. But today I will make an exception. These pictures are of one of eleven Spanish bridle jingles found on the Uncompagre Plateau by My Brother in Law.
Saturday. He wanted to be absolutely sure before any post about them was made.
Hence the delay.

http://They came off of the Noth East ridge of the Uncompagre while He was hunting Indian artifacts.

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OD

 

[Colonial KirkPA]

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At this moment, I am munching on a taco and singing this song:

Masquerading as a Mexican dude, I am still congratulating your brotha-in-law on his Spanish recovery.

Kirk

 

[Old Dog]

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Thanks Kirk,

These are some tiny things too. the links are an inch so each one is only 3 inches.
they are hand forged and really cool.
I give the guy credit for the discovery and the research to follow up.

This is his very first Spanish discovery.
Just for the record to make it more amazing
No metal detector !
Just eyeballs!

OD

 

[Admiral de Salee]

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Are these items Spanish as in the Conquistador times or do you think they're from the 1800's?

I don't know how you'd determine that. If they were the former type, they could still have come to Colorado much later with a Mexican caballero who travelled in the old west.

The reason the question came to mind is that in the Conquistador scenario, there might be a cache of Spanish metal nearby, a la Lost Treasure magazine articles.

 

[dgaughan]

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very cool congrats

 

[Old Dog]

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Admiral de salee,

They were verified as to authenticity by the State Archaeologist.
This fellow took two of them in trade and showed Larry some that were still attached to a bridle circa 1695. they are hand forged and almost identicle.

Other than that I can't say.

Thanks Grubby!

This is a first, LOL
You get to comment on one of my posts.

Larry was the "Doubting Thomas" where the Spanish were concerned in this area. so it is especially nice for him to find these. They are a super find and represent a timly revelation as well.

Thom
OD

 

[piggman1]

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Super historical find! And they were just laying on the ground within sight, that's too cool. I'd look for more artifacts or mining activity around there.

 

[Old Dog]

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Hey PM,

We find arastras and things like these often.
Monumented trails etc, Just like NM and AZ just can't do it as much here,
we get by far too much snow in the winter and a lot of the same heat in the summer.

Always looking though.
OD

 

[Nana40]

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WoW! Fantastic! I'd have to keep going back if I were finding old Spanish artifacts!

Tell him congrats!!! Nana

 

[Old Dog]

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Nana,

This place is a wonderland. To put it bluntly.
There are indians and Spanish, Outlaws and Miners,
and any number of treasure stories to choose from.

Once you figure out what to look for it is only as simple as going looking.

Thom
OD

 

[Old Dog]

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They may have been plated at one time .
They are hand wrought so it would make sense to think so.

I would tend to think something like this would have deteriorated long ago if they weren't.

OD

 

[Old Dog]

Today I cornered Larry and we went out and did a search with his new MD where he had found the first eleven of these.
Came back with about 47 more.
All totaled up there are enough to equip an entire bridle with them.
We also found where they camped.
In the camp area we found a Crossbow bolt (Arrow) That measures 14 inches without any of the natural parts such as the nock,
All in all it was a very GOOD day.

 

[DANGLANGLEY]

Dang, that's a very nice haul. Congrats!

 

[Old Dog]

Thanks Buddy,
Been a long day.

LOL
Very satisfying though.
Years ago we would have been very happy to have found the first few.
But now, with a decent MD a guy can go in and get it all.

I think an old dog can learn a new trick

LOL
Thom

 

[gollum]

Hey Thom,

Very nice finds.

Now, you have to wonder just what happened! Did the rider set spooked by hostile Indians, and remove everything that made noise from his equipment right there? Did the horse (and maybe rider) get killed right there (If so, there should be a lot more tack in the area)?

If there is the possibility of a fight, look for areas of shelter (caves and rockpiles), and MD around them. Especially caves, because you might find an armor stash (or mortal remains).

Best-Mike

 

[Old Dog]

Mike,

We were there for four hours,
We think he must have removed them because of the noise they made.
Yes it was very hostile country... Paiute!

The soil depth is about 3 to 4 inches. and there weren't any other surprises in an area of a 25 foot radius. Although we may find more as the canyon gives up it's secrets.

But the canyon is prolific with monuments and such from end to end.
I am looking forward to chasing a few things that are closer to home, LOL
what a super change of pace, not having to drive for half a day just to get to where the trail is.

Thom

 

[gollum]

Okay. Lets say that he got spooked by Indians. Think carefully about the lay of the land. Think he spotted Indians following him, and dropped the noisy stuff? Now, you have to wonder if that was the case, did the Indians catch him? Was he running away uphill or downhill? Are there any good hiding places around big enough for a horse and rider to hide in?

See, if he knew Indians were after him, and was trying to get away, he may have had to hide. He may have even been caught and killed. What would the Indians have done with his body? What and where would they have done with the body?

When you can actually put a Spaniard and hostile Indians in the same location, there is a very good chance there was a fight. If there was a fight, there was a loser. Where there was a loser, there may be goodies!

Best-Mike

 

[Old Dog]

I agree Mike,
There is like I said a whole canyon full of caves , overhangs, and Spanish monuments to sort out.
This place alone could take years, And boy does it look like fun.

I don't see myself going too far to hunt the Spanish anymore.... well...
I did send you a picture of one place a while back.
I do have a lot of effort invested in that one LOL

Thom
OD

 

[Old Dog]

actually they were supposed to keep the flies off the horse's face.
If you have ever worked with horses ... the flies have a tendency to bite and congregate along the lower jaws and jowl area where these would come into play.

Thom

 

[Old Dog]

You still see them in some of the Latin style tack. Big time still in use in South America.
Especially in Argentina and Peru.

We have downsized ourselves in the last 15 years from 85 horses in 1992 to 21 today.
still a lot like work. even with three of us doing it. LOL

Thom