Bronze cannon

[Javalitrail]

Hi, trying to research markings on an old bronze cannon found underwater. The biggest mark is a crest that has a really big C and a IV underneath. It also has a name engraved on the side"jabalí". If anyone has any input it would really help, thks

 

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[Smithbrown]

You really need to show us pictures or video. And an indication of size.

 

[Javalitrail]

 

[Darren in NC]

King of Spain - King Charles IV crest - late 1700s. Javali is the name of the cannon. What is written in the ribbons of the other cannon?

Ornate Spanish bronze cannon with crest of Charles IV and dated 1791.

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[Javalitrail]

The other cannon says "deseado" on it instead of javali, ribbons say Sevilla 11 February

 

[Darren in NC]

Yes, Deseado is the name of that cannon, as Javali is the name of the cannon in your picture.

Were these found in fresh water? They don't look like they have been in salt water. Very nice!

 

[Javalitrail]

Found in salt water less than 30 ft deep!! Does anyone know where to dig up info on a possible ship that carried these cannon?

 

[Darren in NC]

Yes, but it requires research. And research requires the location so we can check records that match ships lost in that area. Feel free to PM me if you don't want to post it here. Or better yet, remain quiet about it.

 

[Smithbrown]

they look more like field guns than naval guns- any fortifications close by? Or a transport could have gone down. Or they were removed from being captured.

 

[Darren in NC]

Good eye, Smithbrown. I was hoping we'd hear from you. Perhaps they were thrown in the sea in lieu of a large fleet approaching.

 

[Mackaydon]

What I can read is "Sevilla 11 Febrero ....." (February 11) the balance of that should read " de (then the year)".
What year is shown?
Don.......

 

[ropesfish]

King of Spain - King Charles IV crest - late 1700s. Javali is the name of the cannon. What is written in the ribbons of the other cannon?

Ornate Spanish bronze cannon with crest of Charles IV and dated 1791.

The History Blog » Blog Archive » $1,000 reward offered for stolen 1795 Spanish cannon

Good news on that stolen 1795 gun...it was found shortly thereafter;
https://www.ammoland.com/2011/12/stolen-historic-cannon-recovered/#axzz4qbNoYRXZ

 

[seekerGH]

If these were in saltwater, they have certainly been conserved and restored.

Where are these located?

 

[Mackaydon]

As Darren mentioned, the royal monogram is certainly that of King Charles IV of Spain. What has me wondering is the "P1400" on the trunnion.
Prior to 1794 the French used their version of the pound (poid de marc) of 490 grams in the format "PXXX"; like P1400 on the trunnion of this cannon. And, yes, the French and Spain were allies during the French Revolution (if I recall history correctly). So......could this gun have been at least partially manufactured by the French--for Spain, since I don't believe the Spanish used the letter "P" followed by a four digit number on their trunnions to express weight.

'javalitrail', after the Feb.11 month/day, what year is shown?
Don...