Bumper Jack, Barbwire Fence Stretcher???

[Ant]

It's not mine, a friend of mine found it.
An old guy that I know says it's a tractor jack. The only thing that's legible on on it is HOO2

Thanks Tony

 

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[SODABOTTLEBOB]

Cy ~

It ain't a 100% positive ID yet because the pictures you found don't have the wood knob on the end of the handle. Lol Just kidding. Good job!

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Check-row Planters Rise in Popularity

The earliest mention of check-row planting found in patent reports occurred in the 1840s, say Jim Goedert and Larry Greer in their book, Planter Wire: A Patent History and Collector’s Catalog. The check-row planter got under way in earnest in 1857, when Martin Robbins, a Hamilton, Ohio, farmer, was granted the first known check-row planter patent.

By the turn of the century, the implement was widely used. A corn report in the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s 1903 Yearbook noted that “perhaps more corn is now planted by means of a check-rower than by any other device.”



Read more: http://www.farmcollector.com/equipment/check-row-planter-hand-sowing-crops.aspx#ixzz1TZD1BoGr

 

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[SODABOTTLEBOB]

This link will take you to a site that explains the process of "Check Wire Planting" and about how the stakes and horse drawn machines were used. It's pretty interesting. Plus I discovered there are quite a few variations of the stakes. Just Google Image "Check Wire Stakes" for numerous pictures. Of course, the one ID'd here is a later version from the 1920s. But I believe the process was basically the same as the one explained on the website.

~ All courtesy of BigCypressHunter ~

Link: http://livinghistoryfarms.wordpress.com/2011/05/13/in-the-fields/

 

[Silver Searcher]

Great ID work BIG C and Bob Patience and Persistence BIG STYLE

SS

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

I was curious if check-wire corn planting was only done with horse draw machines or if it was also done later with tractors? So I did a little research and discovered it was adapted to tractor planters as well, but fell out of favor in the late 1940s. The whole process seems to have been more of a visual thing than anything else. It's a little confusing to say the least.

I suspect it was this tractorized aspect of the planting process that Ant's oldtimer was referring to. He just got his jacks and stakes mixed up. Or maybe one day they had to use a stake to fix a tractor. Who knows? In any event, he was wrong about what the item was! I hope he isn't too bummed out when he discovers the truth.

Here's a link if you are interested in reading more about the tractor-type of check wire planting. Apparently they used numerous stakes at one time.

Link: http://www.farmcollector.com/implements/trying-your-hand-at-check-row-planting.aspx

The illustraton below shows the somewhat confusing process of check-row planting done with a tractor. Here's a brief explaination related to the illustration.

As can be seen in this illustration of how to lay out check wire, the wire couldn't be pulled absolutely taut but had enough slack left to allow it to follow the planter when close to the end of the row.

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

[ Dedicated to Big Cy with Thanks ]


1. Variation stakes.
2. Spool of check wire.
3. Stake Backside.
4. Check wire close up. (one of numerous variations).
5. Check wire pliers.

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

This is from that other forum and (apparently) posted by the old timer himself.

Forum link: http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/showthread.php/219768-What-am-this-tool

[ Old timer Quote ]

"Well, it sort of reminded me of a jack we used on a tractor but that ain't it. Tony's treasure hunting friends figured it out. It's a check wire anchor used in planting fields."

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

~ To all TreasureNet forum members! ~

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Good pictures Bob but Im not sure I understand how the system works. The way I understand, its not used anymore so I guess I dont need to know.
I guess its just a guide wire to follow when planting seed. http://www.farmcollector.com/implements/trying-your-hand-at-check-row-planting.aspx


The value of the item is probably scrap metal only. I cant find any for sale.

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

There are a couple of them, and some other related items, on e-bay right now. I found them under ...

"Check Wire"

SBB

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

There are a couple of them, and some other related items, on e-bay right now. I found them under ...

"Check Wire"

SBB

Ah OK no bids. http://cgi.ebay.com/Check-wire-plan...481?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b3bbde41

http://cgi.ebay.com/Corn-Planter-Wi...034?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0c5c7ee2

 

[Ant]

Man I'll listen to you next time SODABOTTLEBOB.

You’re incredible bigcypresshunter, I'll listen too. You are incredible bigcypresshunter. And SODABOTTLEBOB was persistent that it wasn’t a jack.

You’re the Guru of “what is its” bigcypresshunter, I bow to you. Thanks a bunch everybody, next time I'll wait for proof before I checkmark solved SODABOTTLEBOB, I’ll should have listen to the experts, yoiu guys and gals.

Jesses posted on his site that you guys found out what it was, and added three links to the patent, diagram and an advertisement. You guys are the best finders on net. bigcypresshunter, it looks like you took PBH’s and Pappy’s place, steped up like you belong.

Thanks again.

 

[Goldwind]

Congratulations on the ID to Big Cy and SBB..you showed me what teamwork can do!...I was disappointed it was not a tractor jack...I really...really.. wanted to see a picture of Bob Eating his HAT...LOL

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

LOL well thanks Ant and everybody. They say being lucky is better than being good. Its not any one particular person that makes this forum successful, its the combination of ideas. Bob said it was a patent number and I followed his lead.

I was only missing one number in reply#99. I only had to try 10 numbers. I found it on the 9th try. I was afraid Bob would find it first so I had to rush.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

The $20.00 Reward is off because this thing is solved!

One thing I want to mention. I have seen rewards offered here before on the What Is It forum and rarely are they ever paid. A good example would be the $50 Piggnutts reward. I have mixed feelings about this. I guess I grew up where people hold you to your word, especially if money is involved, however Bob called off the reward just in time when he realized it was going to be solved. Nobody would ever have let me get out of it that easy lol.


Like I said I have mixed feelings but I understand and its cool. I think Bobs point of view is that if the numbers were revealed in the first place, the item would have been solved in 2 minutes, so it was pointless to have offered a reward. I understand Bob and you dont owe me any money... 8) ....unless of course you want to.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I didnt solve it for the money. NP. It was a group effort I just happen to find it first.

 

[Ant]

Hi Tex, I noticed the photograph that you posted, I studied it too. I just couldn’t make a match. The spool (blue) isn’t mounted on the shaft (Red) the same way, and its chain driven (green). Is it a check wire anchor stake, does it do the same job?

LOOK AT POST 80 AND I BELIEVE YOU WILL SEE IT.

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

Howdy podners ~

I just got home a little while ago and would like to respond to some comments related to the so called $20.00 reward. The following is not a matter of principal or anything like that, nor would it kill me to pay the $20.00 if it had been earned. But the truth is, it appears I was misunderstood by some. If you go back to the following post and re-read them in their proper text, you will see that the reward was me throwing down a gauntlet as a challenge for Ant and the "other forum members" to prove the item in question was a tractor jack. It was never intended as a reward for the first person to ID the item. For example ... (and I have not edited a single word).

In Post # 40 I said ...

In fact, I will go so far as to say that the first person who can "prove" beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's a tractor jack, and explain "precisely" how it works, I will send them $20.00 cash, plus I will eat my hat ta'boot!

In Post # 63 I said ...

I'm not trying to be a pain in the butt either, that's just my opinion. The $20.00 still stands for anyone that can provide us with a manual - magazine - catalog - or newspaper ad with the item clearly pictured and described in it.

Note* Post # 63 was merely referring back to Post # 40 and simply reiterating the challenge for someone to "prove" it was a tractor jack. Nothing more -nothing less!

I apologize if this was misunderstood, but this is the truth of my meaning and intent.

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And just for the record regarding the "Hooverizer Thresher" that texastee2007 posted. If you study the following two pictures, you will notice that the area in question that texastee2007 thought was "the item" is in fact a "gear" of some kind for a belt-drive. I did a little research on threshing machines, and discovered that this particular model was designed to tilt backwards during some phase of the threshing process. I am not expert in this field, but my understanding of the illustration is that those two "rods" that texastee2007 thought were stakes, are actually some type of supports for when the machine was in operation. Similar support rods can be seen on the two exhaust blowers. Study it closely, do some additional research, and I am sure you will have a better understanding of this and agree with me.

And to repeat ... the $20.00 was a "challenge" to member "Ant," and never intended as a reward for the first ID. If anyone wishes to discuss this further, please feel free to do so. I am a very easy going guy. All I ask is for you to consider what I have said here first - compare the pictures of the two threshers - and do some additional research.

In closing ... Had Ant or any member of that other forum ID'd the item as a "tractor jack," the money would already be in the mail to them. But as we all know, it isn't a tractor jack.

As for my participation in the final ID, kudos go to Big Cy first. It was a real shoot-out at the end, but he drew first and knocked my block off! And you can be sure I was scrambling through those patent numbers as fast as I could possibly type them!

Lastly ...

Here are some basics about threshers and threshing ...

Thresher: A modern farm machine for threshing grain, now a part of combine harvesters rather than a separate implement.

Threshing: To separate the grain from the straw or husks by mechanical beating, with a flail or machinery.



Thanks to each and all ... I hope my explaination was a satisfactory one.

Respectfully,

SODABOTTLEBOB

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

T T ~

Thanks. I remember your sentiments from the photo discussion. To tell you the truth, now that all of this is behind us, I can tell you that I knew about the thresher gear all along, but didn't want to say anything at the time because it was those "Ant People" I was trying to dislodge, (all in the spirit of fun) and not you or any other Tnet member. Which we finally did in the end! Hooray!

Take care and we'll see ya around the playground, I'm sure.

Bob

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Howdy podners ~

And to repeat ... the $20.00 was a "challenge" to member "Ant," and never intended as a reward for the first ID.

OK Bob I misunderstood. My bad. I must have just read this part:

In Post # 63 I said ...

I'm not trying to be a pain in the butt either, that's just my opinion. The $20.00 still stands for anyone that can provide us with a manual - magazine - catalog - or newspaper ad with the item clearly pictured and described in it.


I know you dont need the money Bob and I would have continued to refuse it if you had offered. I must have missed the part 23 posts before in reply #40 were you clearly first described the reward.


This is just one of many many IDs that are made here at TN. Its nothing special. Lets move on and my apologies for misunderstanding the reward Bob and my apologies to Texastee for misunderstanding the "snowball in hell" comment. I can remove the posts from the record if you wish.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Over the years I have witnessed rewards offered and never paid. I have witnessed a member that purchased a ruby, never paid and is still a member. Nobody seems to care.

Im relieved to find out Bob that you are a stand-up member!
I think you confused me when you removed the reward. I think I understand it all now.

Im glad this is settled. IDing this stuff is confusing enough as it is.