Button ID needed

[bigkid4]

This button was found by a friend at a early house site were lots of flat buttons as well as Civil War buttons from both sides. It is very well made, thick, one piece button similar to size and construction to the early one piece eagle coat buttons. The backmark is: FIRMIN&SONS Conduit St London. Thanks for any help you can give us in IDing and dating this button. Thanks for the help guys, guess since we have a date and it is a livery button I should mark this one solved.

 

Amazon Forum Fav 👍

Minelab PRO-FIND 35 Waterproof Pinpointer Metal Detector for Experts with Tone ID & Adjustable Sensitivity - Grab it through Amazon!

[Bigcypresshunter]

Cool button. I dont know what it is but it reminded me of an oddfellows tent button.

 

[hammered]

Hi and welcome . I can't Id the button, but give this link a go. tons of pics and info. If you go to the Home page there is link for a list to all the button makers including Firmin and son, good luck.

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showcat.php?cat=200

hammered

 

[vayank54]

Not sure what it is. Like BCH said it reminds me of Oddfellows button. It could be a livery button. It dates between 1823 and 1875. the company became Firmin & Sons in 1823. In 1875 it became a limited liability company and from that date will have LTD in the backmark.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I was gonna say kinda looks like a livery.

 

[traderoftreasures]

1852-1875
Firmin & Sons
13 Conduit St London

 

[Woodland Detectors]

What a great button!

 

[CRUSADER]

Yeap Livery

 

[Lucas]

What makes this a livery button is the torse, which identifies the tent, etc., as a crest.

 

[BuckleBoy]

Not sure what it is. Like BCH said it reminds me of Oddfellows button. It could be a livery button. It dates between 1823 and 1875. the company became Firmin & Sons in 1823. In 1875 it became a limited liability company and from that date will have LTD in the backmark.

The construction and style of that button would pretty much narrow it down to the first 2 or 3 decades of that time span, IMO.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

What makes this a livery button is the torse, which identifies the tent, etc., as a crest.

I always wondered what that was across the bottom of livery buttons. http://www.colchestertreasurehunting.co.uk/B/buttons.htm

 

[vayank54]

What makes this a livery button is the torse, which identifies the tent, etc., as a crest.

I always wondered what that was across the bottom of livery buttons. http://www.colchestertreasurehunting.co.uk/B/buttons.htm

Same here. I always wondered what that was called.
Thanks Lucas