Button

kuger · Feb 15, 2011

A friend asked me to find out what I could on this button,but I am not real good with buttons,especially foreighn ones!All I could come up with is it resembles the Royal Grenadiers,but I dont know??

Bigcypresshunter · Feb 15, 2011

I dont know British buttons either. Can you read the bacjmark? FIRMIN? LONDON?

kuger · Feb 15, 2011

You know Big Cy,I read it,and forgot what it said! $:-\$ Moron!The crucial button I.D tip,and I blew it!!I will see it again soon.I was hoping somebody would know it just from the front

TheCannonballGuy · Feb 15, 2011

Kuger wrote:
> The crucial button I.D tip,and I blew it!!

Actually, the backmark doesn't give you a button's ID ...just the button's country-of-origin and the manufacturer's time-period.

The "crucial button I.D. tip" for your button is the motto on the ribbon. I realize the letters are kinda tiny, but if possible please tell us the motto, as precisely as possible.

Kenosha Kid · Feb 15, 2011

Looks like Royal (Main?) (?) Company

kuger · Feb 15, 2011

TheCannonballGuy said:
Kuger wrote:
> The crucial button I.D tip,and I blew it!!

Actually, the backmark doesn't give you a button's ID ...just the button's country-of-origin and the manufacturer's time-period.

The "crucial button I.D. tip" for your button is the motto on the ribbon. I realize the letters are kinda tiny, but if possible please tell us the motto, as precisely as possible.

Very good point Guy,I am not so concerned with the date,as I know its fairly early.
As for the letters,I tried with head mount jewlers loupe,my loupe,they are ineligible :dontknow:

TheCannonballGuy · Feb 15, 2011

Okay. Too bad. Thanks for trying. I suggested it because I've had very good success at ID-ing buttons which have a motto by Google-searching for the exact wording of motto. That's a tip for the forum's folks to keep in mind, because it works for ID-ing things besides buttons.

Kenosha Kid · Feb 16, 2011

Kenosha Kid said:
Looks like Royal (Main?) (?) Company

OK, the writing on the ribbon states "Royal Mail Steam Packet Company", similar to this and made by more than one button company back then :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/23mm-K-C-Roya...573693389&po=&ps=63&clkid=7135516352003510438

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OLD-ROYAL-MAIL-STEAM-PACKET-CO-BUTTON-/120683291242

edit: this one is yours, manufactured by Firmin of London :

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...=14&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com (scroll down on the page)

kuger · Feb 16, 2011

Kenosha,you da man!!!You just did the impossible!!!Thank you!

Kenosha Kid · Feb 16, 2011

kuger said:
Kenosha,you da man!!!You just did the impossible!!!Thank you!

No problem. Here's a link, for your friend, to the Royal Mail Steam Packet Company history. While it doesn't date the button, it shows that a Pacific coast route ran from 1921-1968. Nice piece of history with that button !

http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/royalmail.html

Bigcypresshunter · Feb 16, 2011

Thats a great ID Kenosha Kid. Its best to post the image so we can look back thru these old threads. They serve as a great future research tool and database of finds, possibly one of the best. The eBay links will eventually be deleted and who knows about the others.

So Im posting the button image here. Great research Kenosha Kid! :icon_thumright:

Kenosha Kid · Feb 16, 2011

bigcypresshunter said:
Thats a great ID Kenosha Kid. Its best to post the image so we can look back thru these old threads. They serve as a great future research tool and database of finds, possibly one of the best. The eBay links will eventually be deleted and who knows about the others.

So Im posting the button image here. Great research Kenosha Kid!

Sound advice, never thought about the links eventually becoming broken/deleted.