C.S. Snake buckle??? & nice IH

[IAMZIM]

C.S. Snake buckle & nice IH

Found a nice 1916d Lincolin, and an 1883 IH. Also this cool ornate hook/clip thingy.

 

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Re: C.S. Snake buckle & nice IH

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/a1-Early-...9786762?pt=UK_Antiquities&hash=item519dccaa0a

This seller thinks Pre-CW

 

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[Woodland Detectors]

Re: C.S. Snake buckle & nice IH

Nice buckle!

 

[Ifoundit69]

Re: C.S. Snake buckle & nice IH

Awesome find !

 

[Thunderchild]

Re: C.S. Snake buckle & nice IH

Civil War or not. Still an awesome find! Congrats.

 

[IAMZIM]

Re: C.S. Snake buckle & nice IH

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/a1-Early-...9786762?pt=UK_Antiquities&hash=item519dccaa0a

This seller thinks Pre-CW

Nice! I'm assuming that might have been dug accross the water from the States?

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: C.S. Snake buckle & nice IH

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/a1-Early-...9786762?pt=UK_Antiquities&hash=item519dccaa0a

This seller thinks Pre-CW

Nice! I'm assuming that might have been dug accross the water from the States?

Yes UK.

 

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JOHN C. DENNER CO...Weapons Catalogue - Cdn/British Victorian Militaria
http://www.denner.ca/weapons/BritishCdnVic/snake 1.jpg

Saw this. The seller just says Victorian (1837-1902) but thinks they are associated with the Rifle Regt & Cavalry Units. (gives a price as well)

 

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Uniforms | Russell Militaria | Militaria and Collectibles | Lethbridge Alberta

Scroll down & hoover over image.

"World War One Canadian uniform belt with snake buckle. These were a favorite of Commonwealth soldiers and Police during the early 20th century."

Whilst digging around I thought it worthy of pulling up this old post. We know have a positive ID on one particular 'type'.

 

[Tommy G]

CW era, or not - that snake buckle is a cool find! Thanks for sharing.

 

[CRUSADER]

CW era, or not - that snake buckle is a cool find! Thanks for sharing.

Did you look at the latest post above yours?

 

[woolshed]

Nice find. I am in Victoria, Australia and we call them Gold fields buckles because they are found on the gold fields, 1850s - 1870s. This is the Era that I search and below are a few of my finds. Two snake buckles and two American buckles. All found on the same gold field and in the same area of each other. So found on an 1850s - 1870s gold field gives a good indication of the age of my buckles, and yours. Again, a very nice find.









Cheers, Woolshed

 

[CRUSADER]

Nice find. I am in Victoria, Australia and we call them Gold fields buckles because they are found on the gold fields, 1850s - 1870s. This is the Era that I search and below are a few of my finds. Two snake buckles and two American buckles. All found on the same gold field and in the same area of each other. So found on an 1850s - 1870s gold field gives a good indication of the age of my buckles, and yours. Again, a very nice find.









Cheers, Woolshed

Thanks for your valuable input which adds evidence to the debate.
I wish the books had a better timeline of styles verses time period. But your point that because yours date to that period, so does the OP, over simplifies the ID. Like I started with, in the UK, they date for many hundreds of years, not just a short 19th C period.
It would be good to see further study on exact types & uses/timeline.
They are still being used today.

My most reason link, is an exact match to the OPs, still on the original belt from WWI era, so that's fairly strong evidence I think. But only for that type.

 

[woolshed]

Yes, I agree with you on that. The Victorian Police had them in the 1880s and the Australian troops used them in WW1. As you say, they go back a long way. It would make great research and good book.
Cheers, Mick.

 

[find]

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/today-s-finds/502521-snake-buckle-2-a.html

I've found 2 of theses snake buckles in one area, 2 different types, very sure used in WW1 by one Newfoundland soldier

 

[trapperart]

Nice find congrats

 

[find]

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/today-s-finds/502521-snake-buckle-2-a.html

I've found 2 of these buckles in Newfoundland, Canada. Both are different styles, found in same general area and very sure used in WW1

 

[CRUSADER]

Yes, I agree with you on that. The Victorian Police had them in the 1880s and the Australian troops used them in WW1. As you say, they go back a long way. It would make great research and good book.
Cheers, Mick.

In the UK they started in the 3rd Quarter of the 16th C about 1575, fell out of favour sometime in the 17th C & reappeared in the beginning of the 19th C & then had continuous use until today.
So yes, plenty of material for a book.

 

[CRUSADER]

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/today-s-finds/502521-snake-buckle-2-a.html

I've found 2 of these buckles in Newfoundland, Canada. Both are different styles, found in same general area and very sure used in WW1

THANKS.
Another prefect match for the OPs. I'm glad I dredged this one up, because your post & mine now strength the case for 1 of the styles beginning WWI era. What we don't know is when this style started or finished!

 

[Rick (Nova Scotia)]

I found one in 2013, but is a slightly different version than yours (OP) yours has 2 heads, mine has a head, and a tail.



Haven't checked the link that Don provided, but I will now. Hope I learn something.
Cool find, and thread.

 

[CRUSADER]

I found one in 2013, but is a slightly different version than yours (OP) yours has 2 heads, mine has a head, and a tail.

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Haven't checked the link that Don provided, but I will now. Hope I learn something.
Cool find, and thread.

This snake type I believe is 20th C, probably later than WWI. Closer to types used 20-30 years ago on Sailor uniforms.