Can Anyone date this bullet and seal?

[capri_auto]

Calling all experts, I have been searching for a colonial site and made these two finds and want to find out if they date to the 18th or 19th century. The seal has a U A visible, the bullet looks old but I dont know much about it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys.

 

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[Lucas]

"Modern" bullet, modern copper jacket from a bullet, modern utility meter seal, machine made cut nail, c. 1810-now.

 

[capri_auto]

Guess I have to keep looking, thanks for the info!

 

[kuger]

Looks like a percussion cap in the upper right corner

 

[Lucas]

I think that's a peeled copper jacket.

 

[kuger]

I think that's a peeled copper jacket.

You know after looking at that again...your right!WAYYYY to big huh?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

here's some lead seal patents

 

[Monty]

I would like to see the bullet from different angles and perhaps some measurements. I agree with the id of the other objects. monty

 

[capri_auto]

I would like to see the bullet from different angles and perhaps some measurements. I agree with the id of the other objects. monty

Heres another pic, the pullet is kind of distorted. I think it may be a modern black powder round, what do you think?

 

[Monty]

All I can say for sure is that the grooves look like the bullet was swaged instead of cast. No idea without diameter. Monty

 

[duggap]

Anytime you see the crimp marks on a bullet it is post war. That method of loading bullets didn't come about until after the war.

 

[Monty]

Those "crimp marks" are lubricating grooves that are swaged into the bullet in such a manner as to hold the lube whether it be grease or more recently a "dry" lube. A crimp groove is just a straight groove with no indentations. If the bullet were jacketed, that type of groove could be used as a crimp groove and it would be called a caneleer. On a jacketed bullet it could be made with a gnurling tool by a handloader at home or a factory bullet it would be swaged into the jacket as part of the manufacturing process. I agree that the bullet probably is not that old. If I knew the diameter, weight and height I could tell if it was a rifle or handgun bullet. Without that information I can only say it is a fairly contemporary design made for a low to medium velocity firearm. Monty

 

[montepollock]

Here is a link I found to CW bullets Hope it may be helpfull to You in the future
http://www.baymediapro.com/collection/bulletsearch.htm
HH,Mont