Can anyone help with info on this tag

[jtw1313]

It's on the bottom of a selon maelzel metronome trying to get a date

 

[SkaBa]

1865

 

[jtw1313]

Is that the date or is that founded 1865?

 

[Mackaydon]

Looks like the company is still in business.
You may wish to contact them and ask?
Don.....
Google Translate

 

[jtw1313]

Does this tag even have anything to do with this

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[Rmeav8r]

gegründet in English means Founded or Established.

So founded since 1865.

 

[Mackaydon]

Some history:
In 1812, Dietrik Nikolaus Winkel (b.1780 Amsterdam d. 1826) found that a double weighted pendulum (a weight on each side of the pivot) would beat low tempos, even when made of short length. Johann Nepenuk Maelzel, through some questionable practice, appropriated Winkel's idea and in 1816 started manufacturing "Maelzel's" Metronome. It has been in highly successful use to this day. It is manufactured by Swiss, German, French and American manufacturers who vie with each other for the limited business available.
Don.....

 

[GpSnoopy]

From this Ad in 1911, I translated part of it.

Large stock of eyeglasses, Zwickern , opera watchers , binoculars , lorgnette , telescopes , barometers , medical and other thermometers. ROBERT SCHOLZ , OPTICIANS , GRAZ

 

[GpSnoopy]

Just further, Graz is a city in Austria (2nd largest, actually) and Hofgasse 5 is the address.

 

[jtw1313]

Thanks for the help guys I cannot find this metronome anywhere alot similar but not the same name on the face plate. I think this one is pretty old judging by the screws and the nails. I attached a pic of the nail that is bent over on the bottom holding the cover on weird looking

 

[GpSnoopy]

I'm thinking that the Robert Scholz tag was there because he may have been selling the metronome in his store. I don't think it has anything to do with the metronome itself, just a merchant tag.

 

[jtw1313]

Here is the plate on the front

If anyone can find this one. most of them say DE Maelzel. I attached another pic to

 

[GpSnoopy]

Found a similar metronome by Maelzel and there was some info...

https://utsic.escalator.utoronto.ca/home/blog/instrument/metronome-2/

Also saw this on another forum. Looks like they made this model for a very long time.

In 1812, Dietrik Nikolaus Winkel (b.1780 Amsterdam d. 1826) found that a double weighted pendulum (a weight on each side of the pivot) would beat low tempos, even when made of short length. Johann Nepenuk Maelzel, through some questionable practice, appropriated Winkel's idea and in 1816 started manufacturing "Maelzel's" Metronome. It has been in highly successful use to this day. It is manufactured by Swiss, German, French and American manufacturers who vie with each other for the limited business available.

 

[yakker]

Yeah- as with many musical instruments and things that go with them, the style doesn't change much over time. I had a metronome pretty much just like that when I was playing piano. That 'bent nail' is a part made just for that purpose. Metronomes definitely have a limited market, but you should check the going price- and have it checked for accuracy if you're selling it. It's got to work, be accurate and be balanced. Yakker

 

[jtw1313]

Here is a number on the inside

Maybe some one can find a date from that paquet 3805

 

[CRUSADER]

1865

funny

 

[SkaBa]

funny

Finally.

 

[jtw1313]

The sticker has nothing to do with the metronome I don't think. Anyway it reads founded in 1865. But I may start a new thread under metronome because the sticker could be 1865 lol