Can you identify this swastika plate

[Mike in Ky]

I dug this at an old 1800's home site. It is 1 3/8 inches tall by 2 3/8 inches wide. If you look on the back side you can see solder marks on each side. It also looks like it may have been plated at one time. I don't think it is a swastika from Hitler times. Can anyone positively identify this piece?

Mike

 

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[Spitfire Reddie]

Possibly a good luck piece attached to the house at one time
PBK will be along shortly with the answer i am sure !

 

[Mike in Ky]

Other side of plate

Here is the other side of the plate with the solder marks on the back.

Mike

 

[Spitfire Reddie]

History of the swastika

http://history1900s.about.com/cs/swastika/a/swastikahistory.htm Can i see a pic of the back ? It could of been a belt buckle at one time.

 

[Mike in Ky]

History of the swastika

http://history1900s.about.com/cs/swastika/a/swastikahistory.htm Can i see a pic of the back ? It could of been a belt buckle at one time.

The picture of the back is above your post. Look on each side and you can see the solder marks.

Mike

 

[Cannonman17]

I would GUESS that it's some kind of war trophy brought back by a WW2 veteran. I just found a nazi lufftwaffe badge in a veteran's yard here in wisconsin. His kid said that his dad had tons of the stuff and when he was a kid him and his brothers would play with some of it.

 

[Mike in Ky]

I would GUESS that it's some kind of war trophy brought back by a WW2 veteran. I just found a nazi lufftwaffe badge in a veteran's yard here in wisconsin. His kid said that his dad had tons of the stuff and when he was a kid him and his brothers would play with some of it.

This isn't the same type of swastika that the Nazi's used.

Mike

 

[nhbenz]

Welcome to TreasureNet Mike! How do you find this to be different from the swastika type the Germans used? My guess is that it could be from that era. (I only slightly modified this post after I opened my eyes and noticed its small size). :P

 

[dg39]

The size makes me think it was part of a compact or cig. case. Without any marks or idea of use it could be before or during the nazi period. Its almost a 50-50 toss up. I am going to lean in the direction or prior to 1932.
DG

 

[Mike in Ky]

Honestly I don't think I'll ever know for sure. That's what makes this hobby interesting.

Mike

 

[nhbenz]

It almost appears as though there is some solder type stuff on the front as well (hard to tell from the photo)... is it possible that it was wrapped around something and soldered in a loop? Mike were these found in Kentucky? Also, I can't read the date on the Alabama State fair token... I was wondering if any connection could be made between the items. (just a stretch). Maybe this was attached to some of the parts we brought over with Werhner von Braun (former Nazi rocket scientist whom NASA hired and worked in Alabama for a time) Ok, that might be too much of a stretch.

 

[Mike in Ky]

The solder is only on the back side of the plate. The Birmingham Alabama State Fair horse shoe medal is dated 1905. I also got a 1898 Barber dime from there, older coins as well. This town that I found it in was established in 1817.

Mike

 

[daytondigger]

Do you sell your tokens or keep them? I've tried for years to find coal company scrip but only found some unlisted lumber scrip so far. Nice finds.

 

[Mike in Ky]

I've only found 1 coal co. token. It was from the Dawson Daylight Coal co. in Dawson Springs, Ky. It had a D stamped thru it after it was used. That's the only coal co. token I've found. The token in the picture says at C A Talley & Co. good for 25 cents in trade.

Mike

 

[Mike in Ky]

Do you sell your tokens or keep them? I've tried for years to find coal company scrip but only found some unlisted lumber scrip so far. Nice finds.

I don't have many tokens and never thought about even trying to sell one.

Mike

 

[CAP]

Mike, it may very well be Nazi. I believe the good luck cross goes counter clockwise while the Nazi cross goes clockwise. If you look down the list of posts someone has posted a good luck token with the cross. That's not to say that the one who made this plate didn't get confused and make it going the wrong way.

CAP

 

[Mike in Ky]

Oh well, it wouldn't be so bad if it was Nazi. Pretty interesting anyway.

Mike

 

[Mike in Ky]

Wonder if the plate would be worth anything at all?

Mike

 

[BuckleBoy]

I have been looking around for something Nazi-related that fits the dimensions of this plate and come back empty handed. My guess is that it dates to the turn of the century and in this case simply signified "good luck," the original connotation of the swastika. The "history of the swastika" website has some good details. Either way, keep it in your junk box for future re-evaluation. Back when I started detecting, I started what I have termed "the greater junk box" and "the lesser junk box." (These names have now come to signify several boxes each!) Back then I didn't know what most of the stuff I recovered was, but since then I have realized that I had several good finds rolling around in the junk boxes. These have included valuable tokens, an early Red Cross lapel pin, and a Civil War knapsack hook. Ya never know. In some cases ya never will, but there's always a chance. From personal experience, you should keep a record of where you found it and what you found it with for future reference. I didn't find the Civil War relic mentioned above at a Civil War site, but I can't remember where I found it. (Frustrating!) Best of luck.

Buckleboy

 

[Mike in Ky]

I'm definitely going to hang on to it. It is kind of unique. I bet I'll never find another one. Like I said I guess we'll never know for sure.

Mike