i'd sure like more provenance....
Trigger guards have modern counterparts. As do butt plates. And at least one of the nose caps. That's not bad. But not rare or custom build stuff.
A builder can shape a tang/tail on a trigger guard to leave a sign of their style , or "school" of geography. Factory pieces get rubber stamped so to speak.
Note the one trigger guard is not inlayed , but flush mounted.
Neither have set triggers (two triggers.) That hints of utilitarian and low budget origins.
I don't recognize either lock. No big deal. Unless one or both are rare.
One barrel is missing front sight I believe.
One hammer is missing it's screw , and other screws look loose.
The one rifles wood does not match front and rear (my opinion , I'm not great with pictures) as if it was repaired.
There is a brand called Traditions that built a similar model to the half stock rifle pictured. Not saying it is the case, but multiple parts may have been added.
Not a crime. Keeping a rifle functional is cheaper than replacing it. (A time honored tradition in itself.)
Unless a maker is known , or a parts provenance , or association with a previous owner can be proven , I would not bid very high.
Lock , stock , and barrel is the sum of a rifles value. Yes , there's more. But how much moneywise?
The brass inlay behind the lock screws on the left of the one rifle hints of a "liberty cap"/hat. A creative version if it is....But usually associated with a much earlier era. Which the two rifles don't seem to fit.
The carving is not that of a practiced craftsman. Please , no offence is meant to whoever did it.
Wallhangers. But till proven valuable beyond cosmetics ...I'd be reluctant to pay more than for a modern reproduction is usable shape. Which , depending on source won't be very much compared to an old known makers work.
Being old rifles. They sure are neat to look at.
Markings on barrels? Or on lock plates? No markings raises an eyebrow. They could help sort out some origin. Maybe.
