Well thank you Cannonballguy ! Sorry to hear that you’re still sick, hopefully you perk up soon. I really appreciate the help ! As for the rest of you constant readers, I’m sorry for digging up such an old post, you see after my original posting I carried that thing into the bedroom and rolled it under the bed, and promptly forgot about it. The other night I was rooting around under there for my spare slippers and smashed my knuckles off the blasted thing which reminded me that I hadn’t heard from the accepted expert on this forum. So, now I’ve heard and will go about marking this thread solved, so thanks again ! By the way, I ah, found another iron, ah, iron ball.......... I’ll post a new thread.