Civil War Belt Buckle Question

[southernbandit]

Ok, here is one for all of you experts on Civil War Buckles.
A buddy gave me some things to put on E-Bay for him and most all
the things he gave me were authentic relics. But then he gives me this
one and I can't really find much on it or even a picture of another anywhere.
Inside the box with the buckle there is a note that just says 2nd Texas Inf. Breast Plate 1862.
As you can see also on the back of the buckle it says 1862, Fort Killeen, 2nd Inf, CSA.
And I only doubt the authenticity of it because it has the date on the back of the buckle.
Any information would sure be helpful.
Bandit

 

[PBK]

I only doubt the authenticity of it because it has the date on the back of the buckle.

I believe that your concerns about this piece are more than justified. Enough said.

 

[hogge]

I'm no expert...but why would you doubt the authenticity if it has a date? Looks pretty authentic to me. I'm sure Buckle Boy will jump in shortly. NICE FIND

 

[southernbandit]

I'm no expert...but why would you doubt the authenticity if it has a date? Looks pretty authentic to me. I'm sure Buckle Boy will jump in shortly. NICE FIND

I bought a 2 piece buckle once and it had the date on the back of it.
And someone told me during the civil war they didn't put dates on things.
Also the metal don't seem to be brass or copper.
I just don't want to put it on ebay without being pretty sure of what it is.
Bandit

 

[savant365]

I am not any kind of an expert either but there was a recent post with links to several reproductions. I think it said that holes drilled in the corners was a dead give away for it being a fantasy piece.

 

[zaxfire69]

I will save you the trouble of putting it on Ebay.

 

[savant365]

You can go to this link and get some good info

http://www.savage-station.com/

 

[sneaky6]

Wow!! Those faker makers sure crammed a lot of info on a small piece of metal!! Amazing!! Thanks for sharing!!

Sneaky6

 

[kdismuke1]

HOPE YOU GET ALL THE ANSWERS. BEST OF LUCK.

 

[minton7]

yeah im gunna say fake....... too on the nose to be real

 

[detector de metales]

Oh it's real! NOT!
Interesting stamped back
J2

 

[BuckleBoy]

1. Odd construction. The Style of this buckle is like no other genuine example from the time period.

2. Way more than the usual amount of information given--all the information is on there Twice! (someone Really wanted us to believe that this was real...I mean...Really Really Badly.)

3. Odd composition. There is stamped brass construction, engraved parts, and punched information. I figure a buckle would generally be Cast brass and anything else would be carved in or scratched in with a knife.

4. There is no record of this buckle--and that's a Big Problem, since it obviously isn't homemade.

5. And yet, I'm surprised that I can't find it in some of the resources I have for fake buckles.


Either way, I'm 99.9% sure that it is a fantasy piece.



Regards,



Buckleboy

 

[southernbandit]

"The piece is a figment of imagination."
I agree,

BuckleBoy I have looked everywhere for something that looks like it
so I can figure out what it's a fake of, but I can't seem to find anything on it.
And I went to the web address that savant365 sent me and have really come
to believe that it is probably a fake.

 

[savant365]

Bandit, if I were you I would still get it looked at by an expert. You just never know...it's probably fake but it could be something really special too. I would get more then just 1 opinion also.

HH Charlie

 

[PBK]

An identical plate is shown about halfway down the following webpage:

http://www.civilwardealers.com/fakes/Default.htm

 

[BuckleBoy]

An identical plate is shown about halfway down the following webpage:

http://www.civilwardealers.com/fakes/Default.htm

Nice work, PBK!


I kept looking, and couldn't find the plate. Well done.



-Buckles

 

[Digginman]

Fake or not, I still think it's a nice looking buckle.

DM

 

[southernbandit]

Very Nice work PBK! You da man!
I had not given up yet on finding something that just looked
like it fake or not. It is great to see another picture of one.
I have actually had a couple people from the forum ask to buy it.
I still have to talk to the owner to see what he wants to do with it.
I thank all of you for your expertise. You guys are Great!!
Bandit

 

[Golden1]

 

[ModernMiner]

An identical plate is shown about halfway down the following webpage:

http://www.civilwardealers.com/fakes/Default.htm

Great job Super Sleuth PBK!!!
I knew you would find it.
-MM-